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Old 06-10-2005, 03:03 AM
macdona1 macdona1 is offline
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Default Re: BD flush makes, doesn\'t feel good

1) Dont call on the flop
2) Re-raise the river, you have the nuts you can only hope to get more money out of the raiser. He probably has a K high flush so get that puppy capped
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Old 06-10-2005, 03:08 AM
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Default Re: BD flush makes, doesn\'t feel good

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Dont call on the flop.

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Your right, bet out on the flop.
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Old 06-10-2005, 03:18 AM
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Default Re: BD flush makes, doesn\'t feel good

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Dont call on the flop.

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Your right, bet out on the flop.

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What?

Edit: Nvm, it's a 3/6 hand, I don't play there yet.. but can you explain it anyway?
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Old 06-10-2005, 03:23 AM
ihardlyknowher ihardlyknowher is offline
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Default Re: BD flush makes, doesn\'t feel good

You have two overcards and the back door nut-flush draw on a pretty ragged board. Your equity is most likely greater than 20%, so it is value bet. Plus, you may get a hand like AK to fold, which would be good.
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Old 06-10-2005, 03:32 AM
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Default Re: BD flush makes, doesn\'t feel good

I'm not so sure about this equity calculation (FWIW, I probably bet here like always). 20% might be about right...however, this only makes it a value bet if everyone calls (ie, we win more than our fair share). 1) This will almost never be the case and while 2) some hands will fold that will either allow us to win be spiking a T or A or even win unimproved, which enhance our equity somewhat, 3) in general the hands that call will often be ahead of us/have some of our outs tainted, so paradoxically the more people that call us and the closer they make it to a value bet, the less likely it is that our equity is as high as 20% (or 33% if 2 people call, etc) and therefore probably makes this a non-value bet in that case. If this makes any sense.
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Old 06-10-2005, 03:36 AM
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Default Re: BD flush makes, doesn\'t feel good

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You have two overcards and the back door nut-flush draw on a pretty ragged board. Your equity is most likely greater than 20%, so it is value bet. Plus, you may get a hand like AK to fold, which would be good.

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i'm not sure how you figure the number of 20% and the value bet given that there are 4 players and 4 SB's in the pot. a bet may or may not be right here (no opinion on the matter, close decision), but your reasoning/figures for the bet is, at minimum, partially incorrect.

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Old 06-10-2005, 03:34 AM
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2) Re-raise the river, you have the nuts

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Go home, little boy. There's a fruit roll-up and a bottle of Sunny Delight waiting for you. Plus a nice game of Go Fish.
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Old 06-10-2005, 04:03 AM
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2) Re-raise the river, you have the nuts

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Go home, little boy. There's a fruit roll-up and a bottle of Sunny Delight waiting for you. Plus a nice game of Go Fish.

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This is harsh and uncalled for. Look at his registration date.
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Old 06-10-2005, 04:45 AM
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This is harsh and uncalled for. Look at his registration date.

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Yeah, and? Because he's new, he's exempt from being insulted for giving advice when he can't read the board? Unless you know what it means to have the nuts, stop telling people what to do.
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Old 06-10-2005, 05:00 AM
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This is harsh and uncalled for. Look at his registration date.

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Yeah, and? Because he's new, he's exempt from being insulted for giving advice when he can't read the board? Unless you know what it means to have the nuts, stop telling people what to do.

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Dude, you're wrong.

This would mean that you shouldn't post anything unless you're 100% sure that you're right.

Instead of insulting, you can just tell him what the nuts is.

I hope when I have 2400+ posts, I won't forget where I came from, and I'll have the courtesy to not say anything when I feel like insulting someone who is trying to learn something.

I have more to say, but I'm tired.

OP: Sorry for the hijack...didn't mean to.
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