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#11
06-09-2005, 12:13 AM
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Re: 10/20.. pair and flush draw
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i dont know why these hands keep saying 6max, but its 10/20 full ring. [/ QUOTE ] Sorry if I didn't read them correctly. In a full ring game I would always give more credit to the possibility of a higher flush being out, but primarily to a 3rd player and not the preflop raiser. Hero's hand and the flop he got is a prime situation to double up off someone who will go broke with AA here, and I still push to the min raise. He beats you he beats you and you just rebuy. Regardless, like I said before, it is still push or fold on the turn. 
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#13
06-09-2005, 12:33 AM
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Re: 10/20.. pair and flush draw
Well like I said that sucks but just rebuy. It's just unfortunate that he had that hand, the nut flush draw plus a gutshot. Nonetheless, as I said in the other posts, there are too many possibiities for him to have where you don't want to second guess yourself on the river, making the correct turn play either raise or fold.
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#15
06-09-2005, 05:07 AM
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Re: 10/20.. pair and flush draw
really?
I dunno where you get "bet into big", he is getting 900:3300 on the river. If hero needs to fold this, I need to rethink when/where i bluff. Also, couldn't villain be making a "oops, i should have reraised the flop, so I guess I'll raise now" raise with a set/straight or be semibluffing with AxAh, and then be making a blocking bet on the river? I know you all you 2+2ers loooooooove those blocking bets. I mean, he has you beat here a vast majority of the time, but you only need to be good <25% of the time here. I guess I am just a calling station. -muz
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#16
06-09-2005, 05:51 AM
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Re: 10/20.. pair and flush draw
I cannot find a fold here really, a low flush with no 4th heart against a loose pf raiser, even tho the river does look like a value bet.
I would push/fold turn UNLESS the villain is hyperaggro, then im gonna give him another chance to bet into me on river I used to think that folding here would be the right choice, but I lost the biggest pot of my life when i took the exact same line as a stone bluff and got called by a low flush, on a 3 flush board. If he has a bigger flush, pay him off.
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#18
06-09-2005, 09:13 AM
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Re: 10/20.. pair and flush draw
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well i totally discounted AAh due to his minraise preflop. he did have A5h and i lost [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img] [/ QUOTE ] dem teh breaks. How did you do after you rebought?
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#20
06-09-2005, 08:28 PM
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Re: 10/20.. pair and flush draw
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lol no...stop giving this advice its really bad and hero is too deep for this to be right. [/ QUOTE ] Please note that although I would push I said folding was an option too. What is not an option here is wasting money on a CALL and then either wasting more on the river if you think you are beat by calling that, or by folding there when you could have done it on the turn.
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