Value raise river?

Prof. Booty · #1 06-08-2005, 03:44 PM

This is one of those marginal situations that I've been having trouble with. I'm in a terrible streak lately so I think I've been a little gunshy, missing some value bets and raises here and there. But still, this might be a thin value raise...like I said, my judgement has been off lately.

Party Poker 1/2 Hold'em (6 max, 6 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is Button with 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
3 folds, Hero raises, SB calls, BB calls.

Flop: (6 SB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (3 players)
SB checks, BB bets, Hero raises, SB calls, BB calls.

Turn: (6 BB) J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (3 players)
SB checks, BB checks, Hero checks.

River: (6 BB) A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (3 players)
SB bets, BB folds, Hero...?

Didn't really know it at the time but Villian is pretty passive post-flop.

Dov · #2 06-08-2005, 04:09 PM

I would just call this down.

Your kicker doesn't even play so you could be behind to a lot of hands.

It is bot inconceivable that SB was trying for a c/r on the turn.

I think a call is in order here, and just be glad that you won this pot.

Girchuck · #3 06-08-2005, 04:10 PM

I don't see any value in this raise except for idiot fold equity when SB folds a small ace.
The busted draws fold, the J either bets the turn or doesn't bet the river, depending on whether SB is aggressive or passive. The 6 is now very scared by the ace and the flop raise.
However, the 8 would try for check-raise on the turn, and now it bets when ace comes because it wants to 3bet. This scenario outweighs any gains your raise may bring.

Prof. Booty · #4 06-08-2005, 10:10 PM

Those were the conclusions I came to so I called. He had J9d - flush draw and turned Jacks.

deacsoft · #5 06-08-2005, 10:21 PM

I call.