Easy unimproved AQ fold, right?

sebastian_d · #1 06-08-2005, 10:28 AM

Just checking up. And how's the rest of the play? Should I be doing something at some point?

Party Poker 3/6 Hold'em (8 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
UTG calls, Hero raises, 1 fold, MP2 calls, 4 folds, UTG calls.

Flop: (7.33 SB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (3 players)
UTG checks, Hero bets, MP2 raises, UTG folds, Hero calls.

Turn: (5.66 BB) J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, MP2 bets, Hero calls.

River: (7.66 BB) K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero bets, MP2 raises, Hero folds.

The K was bluffed on to see if it'd get him to fold mid pockets, btw.

Final Pot: 10.66 BB

crunchy1 · #2 06-08-2005, 10:31 AM

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And how's the rest of the play? Should I be doing something at some point?

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Easy turn fold - you don't have odds to continue at this point.

grtflone · #3 06-08-2005, 10:46 AM

this really looks like some spewage to me...no reason to call the Turn.

Spartan1983 · #4 06-08-2005, 11:31 AM

fold the turn

spydog · #5 06-08-2005, 11:50 AM

I've been playing a lot of shorthanded lately so my advice might be a little off.

I wouldn't necessarily fold this turn. He could easily raise this flop with a draw. Like real easy. I call the turn because:

1) I'm still ahead of most drawing hands that would raise the flop.
2) I feel pretty good about my non-spade Ace and Queen outs.
3) Villian might check behind on the river with a hand like A8 or even a paired 5,6, or 7 (meaning he may not value bet me on a brick river).

Of course, when the 3rd spade falls on the river, I'm inclined to check-fold.

Reads are important on these types of hands that you could consider calling down.

jason_t · #6 06-08-2005, 11:52 AM

The turn is close. The river is terrible. I don't know the texture of the Party 3/6 game right now, but bluffing possible scare cards on the river is pointless in the Party 2/4 game right now.

cjhellm · #7 06-08-2005, 11:53 AM

why are you trying to bluff someone who raised you on the flop, then bet the turn against you? its not like he checked on the river. I think this desperation bet was even worse than calling the turn (which still should have been a fold). Even if he thinks the king or the flush beat him, he's still going to call every time.

crunchy1 · #8 06-08-2005, 11:59 AM

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2) I feel pretty good about my non-spade Ace and Queen outs.

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Maybe, but Hero's not getting odds to draw to them.

spydog · #9 06-08-2005, 12:02 PM

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2) I feel pretty good about my non-spade Ace and Queen outs.

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Maybe, but Hero's not getting odds to draw to them.

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You are assuming that Hero is behind. This flop is about as draw heavy as they get. What makes you think villian is NOT raising a draw?

deception5 · #10 06-08-2005, 12:06 PM

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This flop is about as draw heavy as they get. What makes you think villian is NOT raising a draw?

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If this were the case wouldn't he be more likely to take the free turn card?