Folding AA

bigpair · #1 06-08-2005, 03:44 AM

Pretty loose table, 5-6 players to a flop. I figured at least one of the them had a flush on the turn which would give me 4 outs (10.5 to 1) to make a boat on the river. If UTG+1 has the nut flush I have 3 outs getting 14.3 to 1. I was getting 11.25 to 1 odds to call on the turn and I figure my implied odds were at least 14.25 to 1 which makes it a marginal fold. How is my analysis? My play? Your thoughts please. Flame away.

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Preflop: Hero is MP2 with A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. CO posts a blind of $0.5.
1 fold, UTG+1 calls, UTG+2 calls, MP1 calls, Hero raises, 1 fold, CO (poster) calls, 3 folds, UTG+1 calls, UTG+2 calls, MP1 calls.

Flop: (11.50 SB) K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (5 players)
UTG+1 checks, UTG+2 checks, MP1 checks, Hero bets, CO calls, UTG+1 calls, UTG+2 folds, MP1 folds.

Turn: (7.25 BB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (3 players)
UTG+1 checks, Hero bets, CO calls, UTG+1 raises, Hero folds, CO calls.

River: (12.25 BB) 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
UTG+1 bets, CO raises, UTG+1 calls.

Final Pot: 16.25 BB

Stinkybeaver · #2 06-08-2005, 04:51 AM

I like it, not only does the turn pair the board it also puts 3 cards to the flush.

Most of the time I think you are beat here

iNsChris · #3 06-08-2005, 04:56 AM

Tough one, I myself would raise here if i held TPTK to scare everyone off with my "flush".

Depends on the reads,If hes tricky id call down Otherwisefold seems ok..

Wonder what the others think?

Spaderess · #4 06-08-2005, 05:02 AM

I'd call down here. Your Aces are good often enough. Remember, this is Party 05/1.

DavidC · #5 06-08-2005, 05:36 AM

just want to point out that vs a flush you have 4 outs. (Though vs a 6, you have 2 outs)

Edit: and want to rant: once you fold, cut off the hand history at that point. Thank you. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

ricochet420 · #6 06-08-2005, 05:47 AM

Probably the right thing to do, but at PTY it seems like you have to call down.

einbert · #7 06-08-2005, 05:50 AM

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Probably the right thing to do, but at PTY it seems like you have to call down.

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Nice totally nonsensical sentence.

ricochet420 · #8 06-08-2005, 05:55 AM

allow me to elaborate, you're probably beat, but in my personal experience at pty 1/2-1 you have enough morans betting and raising with nothing that it is probably +ev to call down
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Probably the right thing to do, but at PTY it seems like you have to call down.

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Nice totally nonsensical sentence.

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nonsensical-adj
1. Lacking intelligible meaning: a nonsensical jumble of words.
2. Foolish; absurd: nonsensical ideas.

You really could not understand my sentence?

einbert · #9 06-08-2005, 05:58 AM

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you're probably beat, but in my personal experience at pty 1/2-1 you have enough morans betting and raising with nothing that it is probably +ev to call down

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I totally agree.

einbert · #10 06-08-2005, 06:04 AM

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You really could not understand my sentence?

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Yes.