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Old 06-07-2005, 02:33 AM
benkath1 benkath1 is offline
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Default QJoff on button...too aggressive?

Man I'm liking party poker.

Anyway, I'm curious about my preflop raise. Too much with one limper? I raised the flop to keep control in the hand.

I just moved over to party, so bear with me as I don't have many hands or reads to go with them. The table seemed full of donks, like all the tables I played tonight. [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

Party Poker 0.5/1 Hold'em (9 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is Button with J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, MP2 calls, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, SB calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP2 calls.

Flop: (7 SB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, SB calls, MP2 calls.

OK I figured MP2 for an A or a flush draw, but I hadn't seen him be too aggressive in about 35 hands. Mostly a calling station, so I thought an A was more likely. I'd hoped my raise would win the pot right then.

Turn: (6.50 BB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
SB checks, MP2 checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, SB folds, MP2 calls.

OK, I'm looking better now. A or draw and I'm going to charge him.

River: (8.50 BB) A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>

Ewww. Well that card was a rip off. Now what?
MP2 checks, <font color="blue"> Hero ???? </font>
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Old 06-07-2005, 02:36 AM
Chris Daddy Cool Chris Daddy Cool is offline
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Default Re: QJoff on button...too aggressive?

i would check and see what he checkraised you with.
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Old 06-07-2005, 02:56 AM
benkath1 benkath1 is offline
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Default Re: QJoff on button...too aggressive?

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i would check and see what he checkraised you with.

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Thank you.

KK

Couldn't believe it.
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Old 06-07-2005, 03:08 AM
Jakesta Jakesta is offline
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Default Re: QJoff on button...too aggressive?

I don't see a check-raise in this hand. [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]
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Old 06-07-2005, 03:12 AM
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Default Re: QJoff on button...too aggressive?

I would limp w/ QJo pre-flop, but raise with QJs. I don't think it matters that much though. I would be interested if anyone could explain why SSH charts have you playing this way.?

Call on the flop, and wait until the turn to raise. He likely has a flush draw or Ax reads? Either way you dont have enough equity to raise and you won't fold a flush draw.

Turn looks good.

check behind on the river. There is not much that you can beat that would call.
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Old 06-07-2005, 10:02 AM
Rah Rah is offline
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Default Re: QJoff on button...too aggressive?

Preflop I limp - QJo is a very marginal hand. The flop play seems a bit weird to me. Betting out on that flop means either a pair of aces or a heart draw - either you are a big dog or you are avoiding any heart.
Unless the pot is really big I would drop it right there.
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Old 06-07-2005, 10:19 AM
metzara metzara is offline
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Default Re: QJoff on button...too aggressive?

I would limp with that hand.[ QUOTE ]

KK

Couldn't believe it.

[/ QUOTE ]I'm assuming one of them was a heart?
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Old 06-07-2005, 10:21 AM
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Default Re: QJoff on button...too aggressive?

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Preflop I limp - QJo is a very marginal hand.

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In this context not necessarily.
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Old 06-07-2005, 10:34 AM
benkath1 benkath1 is offline
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Default Re: QJoff on button...too aggressive?

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I would limp with that hand.[ QUOTE ]

KK

Couldn't believe it.

[/ QUOTE ]I'm assuming one of them was a heart?

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U assume correctly.
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Old 06-07-2005, 10:42 AM
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Default Re: QJoff on button...too aggressive?

I'd check behind. What's calling you that you beat?
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