PokerTracker vs PokerOffice

[snibbler14]

I agree, PO is way superior during play, but I still like some of the analysis aspects of PT. I use them both and are happy with that.

[CaptSensible]

9 outs for the flush, 6 for the straight, and 3 for the overcard =__18_____.

I WIN! I WIN!

My question is this: On an open ended straight draw why are there only 6 outs? lets say:
I have J Q
flop is 9 T 3.
there are four K's and four 8's.
In my poorly math oriented mind that ='s 8.

I do trust that i'm making a mistake somewhere but I just don't know where it is.

[2easy]

well, since it seems that you really ARE serious, and not being facetous, try this:

in reference to your original problem:

"I now can calculate on my own that flopping a flush draw, a straight draw with an overcard is 20 outs but it helped me out a lot when i was starting out."


2 of your oe straight cards were already counted in your flush cards.


so, sorry, no bus trip for two to schenectady.

[CaptSensible]

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2 of your oe straight cards were already counted in your flush cards.

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AHHHHHH!. Ok, I see! Even more reason why I need help from a program like PokerOffice [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

[waza]

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If you need software to figure out your pot odds then you are not a good enough player to be able to put it to use.

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I have no problem at all figuring out pot odds, but it is really convenient to have it printed on the table when you 8-table.

[Lost Wages]

OMG, this is ridiculous. This guy has 24 posts, here are some of them:

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Ok, so I downloaded PO 1.80 to see what all the fuss was about. Holy Smoke! This takes GT+ to a whole new level. I love how the updates of the statistics is "action sensitive" so that when a player leaves the table the stats automatically dissapears (very annoying when stats "stays" on leaving players in GT+) and I am already addicted to the betting actions on the table. Grrrr... now I must purchase PO as well and convert to using PO during play and PT for analysis.


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PokerOffice 1.80 does what you are asking for.

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I switched to pokeroffice during play, the new release with betting actions, stats and pot odds on the table in a GT+ like manner is amazing. However, PT is till great for analysis. I am happy using both.


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I just tried this, it works perfectly for me. I now have PT/GT+ displaying the stats from my PT database and pokeroffice/overlay showing the betting actions and pot odds. I had to configure GT+ to display the stats above the name box and then PO displays the betting actions under the name box and the pot odds in the middle of the table. This is very neat. But I must say that I prefer the PO statistics over the PT statistics (bigger selection in overlay compared to GT+) so I probably will use PO for stats as well. But this is certainly feasible.


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Yes, you can import PT database into pokeroffice. The HUD feature in pokeroffice works the same way as PV/GT+ , except that is has betting actions and pot odds as well.


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I have been toying around with PT/GT+ and pokeroffice/overlay. If you run both at the same time and turn off the statistics in pokeroffice you can get GT+ with live pot odds and betting actions. Below is a screenshot, the line under each namebox is the betting actions for the ongoing hand (X=check, C=call, R=raise, etc)

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In fact, every single one of his posts refers to PokerOffice.

Lost Wages

[snibbler14]

Man, I have no shill with either PO or PT. I like the softwares so this is where I have made most my posts, shill please.

[Gamer]

I have been following the poker software discussions on this forum for quite some time and I have two things to say:

I find it very amusing that when someone says something good about Pokeroffice he's called a shill, but never when it is the other way around, a good word for PT.

I also wonder who the real shills are; the ones who might say something positive about some software. Or the ones posing as "the Police" and try to keep people from speaking their mind?

[pergesu]

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2 of your oe straight cards were already counted in your flush cards.

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AHHHHHH!. Ok, I see! Even more reason why I need help from a program like PokerOffice [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

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No, you need to read SSH and learn to count outs.

[CaptSensible]

What is SSH?