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KJo
Took my first shot at the 100/200 Pokerstars game today. Table was running 4-handed at the time.
UTG, who plays strongly after the flop but limps way too much with weak hands (and presumably also with strong hands, but I hadn't seen a L/RR yet) open-limps, I raise in the SB with KJo, a high-limit pro who uses his position well and can be very tricky calls in the BB. UTG calls. Flop Q33 rainbow I bet, BB calls, UTG folds. Turn 4 rainbow I check intending to fold, BB checks also. River 2 I check intending to call. |
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Re: KJo
If he called on the flop to steal, he would bet the turn(floating?). That makes me think he can beat K-high.
The turn check really confuses me. I would expect him to think you would try and pick off a bluff on the river with an A or K so I doubt he's bluffing 1 in 5. **[censored], i don't know. Your turn and river check tells him you missed. He might stab at it, but I just don't see what he's calling this flop with that you beat.** |
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Re: KJo
I can believe that he'd call the flop with the intention of blowing you off on the turn. I can't believe that he'd wait until the river to bluff after you checked the turn. If he is that tricky, the 100/200 is one spicy game.
Your hand still looks strong after your second check, so no, I don't think you're picking off any bluffs with a call. If the guy is good, I can see checkraising here, but I don't like checkcall. |
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Re: KJo
Nate,
Strange hand... Initially, when BB calls your flop bet I'm thinking he has Ax and either plans on raising the turn or maybe trying to get to showdown cheaply. If I'm the BB I find it very strange that you wouldn't fire again on the turn. BB has to be thinking you'd only be checking if you want to see a showdown cheaply if that makes sense. If he has junk I think he bets the turn...if he has a hand he thinks might be best at showdown I think he is checking to get to showdown cheaply as well. I think he's got Ax, KJ, or KT and I can't see calling a bet on the river. ___1___ |
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Re: KJo
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**[censored], i don't know. Your turn and river check tells him you missed. He might stab at it, but I just don't see what he's calling this flop with that you beat.** [/ QUOTE ] Yeah, confusing hand. Fortunately two of the other three opponents were fairly weak. I should also add: since he's a regular in this game and I'm new to it, I assume that he reads me as basically TAG but probably pretty predictable after the flop. Don't know if that changes things any. |
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Re: KJo
The more I think about this hand, the more confused I get.
I think BB's most likely holding is a small/medium pocket pair, or maybe QJ/QK. The turn check is what gets me. By checking behind he is either himself hoping to see the river/showdown for free, or is looking to induce a river bluff from you. In either case, I think you're stuck. I can't think of a hand that I would hold that I could call your preflop raise and flop bets without raising somewhere - or betting the turn. Maybe that's why I don't play 1/2. My reply is useless. -Ash [ QUOTE ] Took my first shot at the 100/200 Pokerstars game today. Table was running 4-handed at the time. UTG, who plays strongly after the flop but limps way too much with weak hands (and presumably also with strong hands, but I hadn't seen a L/RR yet) open-limps, I raise in the SB with KJo, a high-limit pro who uses his position well and can be very tricky calls in the BB. UTG calls. Flop Q33 rainbow I bet, BB calls, UTG folds. Turn 4 rainbow I check intending to fold, BB checks also. River 2 I check intending to call. [/ QUOTE ] |
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Re: KJo
I'd like to be the 5th person to reply stating the obvious:
Hmmm...that turn check is really confusing to me. |
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Re: KJo
I would think that if he has <King high, he would bet the turn. The turn check looks like a commitment to showdown ace high. I would check-fold the river.
Can you comment on why you checked the turn? Very tough hand. |
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Re: KJo
My take is that he has a hand like a medium suited ace. He peels one on the flop, but doesn't bet the turn because he figures you might have a bigger ace and will call down, but he is also checking because he's also holding out hope that you may have been iso raising light. I think the river is a check-fold.
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Re: KJo
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I would think that if he has <King high, he would bet the turn. The turn check looks like a commitment to showdown ace high. I would check-fold the river. [/ QUOTE ] This feels like the right idea. With 4 BB in the pot he reasoned that he would rather induce you to bluff into his Ax instead of folding out your 3-6 spike outs. And of course if he's behind then checking is a wonderful move. He could have the same hand. |
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