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Old 06-06-2005, 12:01 AM
James282 James282 is offline
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Default Re: The Best Value Bet in History

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thanks for putting up the singular worst play i made the entire night

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Wow, you must have played one hell of a game that night because I'm not seeing how this play is so bad. Preflop-good. Flop-good. Turn-I would have bet. River-Bet and fold to a raise, bet-call or check-call seems to be the only options you have.

How would you have played it differently now that you know the results?

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The turn check is bad at best.
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Old 06-06-2005, 03:27 AM
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I really don't see how this could be the best value bet in history.

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Especially since it was obvious to the other 3 players at the table that his hand was no good.

BB had 9T and HHWG.

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Where's the turn bet by the BB?

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Old 06-06-2005, 03:40 AM
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I really don't see how this could be the best value bet in history.

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Especially since it was obvious to the other 3 players at the table that his hand was no good.

BB had 9T and HHWG.

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Where's the turn bet by the BB?

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These are good players playing $150-300. What does the BB gain by betting into a preflop raising SB on a QJT board when the SB unexpectedly checks the turn?
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Old 06-06-2005, 03:57 AM
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Default Re: The Best Value Bet in History

Being that the flop gave absolutely no info since it was all bet/called in the dark, I think many more hands will call the turn bet than if the flop was bet/called normally.

What is the BB thinking that the sb thinks he could have as far as how they've played up to that point? The BB could be representing a wide range of hands here. The sb is inducing a bet here.

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Old 06-06-2005, 04:11 AM
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What possible good can happen for the BB if he bets. Seriously. No better hand is folding. He's behind a bunch of hands but has maybe lots of outs. There's just no mileage in betting here. In these games, good players take free cards when offered. This was a very good player.

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The sb is inducing a bet here

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Exactly.
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Old 06-06-2005, 06:09 AM
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Whiskey binger last night. [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

I misread the post and thought the BB flopped a bottom end str8. Sigh! This is the 2nd of only a few posts I've misread today. Not a good ratio.

Makes me reeaaal glad I didn't play today.

Yes, this is an easy check behind. Duh.

Sorry for those wasted 3 responses.

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Old 06-06-2005, 08:43 AM
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It was an all-time high stakes for him, so I think a little FPS leaked into him on this one.

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and i honestly did think he'd bet with something he could "have nothing to do but call" preflop and then smoke call the flop.

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Old 06-06-2005, 09:09 AM
DcifrThs DcifrThs is offline
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and clark, thanks for putting up the singular worst play i made the entire night

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Hey, I wasn't ever going to mention that it was you. I was just relaying a funny story.

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note the smiley face ( [img]/images/graemlins/smirk.gif[/img]) after the comment ... and also note i really dont mind at all that yo uposted it or would have cared if you said it was me outright.

in any case, i've been thinking about it and looking back and it was indeed very funny...

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Old 06-06-2005, 01:33 PM
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This was 150 Barron? How'd you wind up for the session? Gimme a holla sometime even though you are now a Vegas big shot!
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Old 06-06-2005, 04:24 PM
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Default Re: The Best Value Bet in History

If he said it after being called (instead of raised)then this is no big deal. Almost anthying that can only call is beat.
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