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Old 06-06-2005, 12:41 PM
niko421 niko421 is offline
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Default Pushed around by a big stack

I was playing 1/2 NL @ UB last night and the following hand came up.... What would you do?

I am on the Button and am dealt TT
4 limpers I raise to $14
1 Callers (His stack $578), mine $85)

I have watched him come in with 98o, JT, 67s on a raised pot, he has been pushing his chips around lately and catching all his draws.

Flop Qc 7c 2h

He fires right away $75, almost double the pot

What do I do? Raise all in (ooh $10 more) or fold?
My feeling is he is on draw, but my fear is he hit the Q.
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Old 06-06-2005, 01:15 PM
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Default Re: Pushed around by a big stack

The only reasonable draws that you're favourite against are flush draws where at least one card is below a ten in value, and even then you're only a small favourite.
Given that, and given the possibility that he has your tens crushed (I could see someone playing 22 or 77 like this, hoping that you'll be unable to fold the AA or KK that a 7xbb bet often represents), this is an easy fold.

If the big stack is pushing his chips around quite so aggressively, it makes more sense to play TT for set value than how you played it.
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Old 06-06-2005, 01:37 PM
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Default Re: Pushed around by a big stack

I did fold the hand down, only to be shown Jh7h. This hand did come up again, except this time the played a weak ace, and I out kicked him. My thoughts on the matter, was with a chip stack willing to double me through, I might as well wait until I had something that wasn't crushed and then I could beat back on him.
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Old 06-06-2005, 02:14 PM
Suntzu00000 Suntzu00000 is offline
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Default Re: Pushed around by a big stack

Stack size is irrelevant in a NL ring game. If the player is aggressive and loose, you have already mentioned the perfect strategy. Wait till you have him crushed. Let him dig his own grave, then push him in it. If he's as laggy as you say, I think I would have pushed all-in on the guy. But then again, you need a decent read to push with second pair.
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Old 06-06-2005, 02:20 PM
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Default Re: Pushed around by a big stack

Why are you playing with 40bbs?
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Old 06-06-2005, 05:27 PM
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Default Re: Pushed around by a big stack

I only had 40 BB because I had just re raised the hand before to $40 with QQ and got 2 callers, the flop was AK 4, and then a bet and re raise I fold in a heart beat. The raiser had ATo, and the better had KQ.
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Old 06-06-2005, 06:11 PM
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Default Re: Pushed around by a big stack

stack size is not irrelevant in a NL ring game, especially if its capped buy in.

and pushing against a lag with 2nd pair is silly as you have less folding equity compared against a normal player with top pair and lag probably won't call with 3rd pair.
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Old 06-06-2005, 06:16 PM
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I only had 40 BB because I had just re raised the hand before to $40 with QQ and got 2 callers, the flop was AK 4, and then a bet and re raise I fold in a heart beat. The raiser had ATo, and the better had KQ.

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You have to work on your rebuy skills. [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]
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