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Old 06-06-2005, 04:42 AM
yellowjack yellowjack is offline
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Default A Followup to \"Two Overpair Hands\"

As discussed in one of the more interesting threads recently.

How did I play this hand on all streets? SB had only a few BB left and I could see him calling it down. All I had on CO was 22% VPIP and 4% PFR after 54 hands, so nothing much.

On the flop, I'm calling because I'm not looking to push my edges or scaring any bettors/raisers into not betting/raising on the turn when my safe card comes.

When the turn came, I realize that I'm directly to the right of the aggressor so I try to go for him raising me on the turn. It's the only way I can do anything that may help me win the hand. Check-raising will do absolutely nothing except trap the field for 2 bets. I know the K isn't the safest card in the deck, but it doesn't complete any reasonable draws so I'm happy with it. There isn't any compelling evidence that someone has a K. I think that's key. So I'm still treating my hand as an overpair.

The river's a brick but I get weak-tight and go for the check and hopefully overcall. I'm not so sure a bet is +EV here, mostly because the draws off the flop won't call me. I'm still really confused about it actually.

----- HOLE CARDS -----
dealt to Hero [Th Tc]
UTG: folds
UTG+1: calls $0.50
UTG+2: folds
MP1: folds
Hero: raises $1
MP3: folds
CO: calls $0.50
Button: calls $1
SB: calls $0.75
BB: calls $0.50
UTG+1: calls $0.50
----- FLOP (12 SB) ----- [5s 8s 7c]
SB: bets $0.50
BB: calls $0.50
UTG+1: raises $1
Hero: calls $1
CO: raises $1.50
Button: folds
SB: calls $1
BB: folds
UTG+1: calls $0.50
Hero: calls $0.50
----- TURN (12.5 BB) ----- [5s 8s 7c][Kh]
SB: checks
UTG+1: checks
Hero: bets $1
CO: raises $2
SB: calls $2
UTG+1: folds
Hero: calls $1
----- RIVER (18.5 BB) ----- [5s 8s 7c Kh][2c]
SB: checks
Hero: checks
CO: bets $1
SB: calls $1
Hero: calls $1
----- SHOWDOWN (21.5 BB) -----
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Old 06-06-2005, 04:45 AM
aK13 aK13 is offline
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Default Re: A Followup to \"Two Overpair Hands\"

1. Use the converter.
2. I don't know why you're betting the turn.
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Old 06-06-2005, 04:48 AM
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Default Re: A Followup to \"Two Overpair Hands\"

I would reraise flop. When the king comes i will probaly check call down. I don't know the texture of this game though.
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Old 06-06-2005, 04:48 AM
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Default Re: A Followup to \"Two Overpair Hands\"

Don't get cute on the flop. 3bet it.
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Old 06-06-2005, 04:52 AM
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Default Re: A Followup to \"Two Overpair Hands\"

I'm not 3-betting the flop because I don't want to get checked to raise SB or UTG+1 on the turn to force CO and button to face 2 bets cold.

Instead it gets checked by SB and UTG+1 so I bet in hopes that CO will raise me, getting other players to call 2 BBs. It's better than checking because they may work. If I don't bet the turn, there's no way I can force the field to call 2 bets which is what I really want to do.
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Old 06-06-2005, 04:57 AM
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Default Re: A Followup to \"Two Overpair Hands\"

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I'm not 3-betting the flop because I don't want to get checked to raise SB or UTG+1 on the turn to force CO and button to face 2 bets cold.

Instead it gets checked by SB and UTG+1 so I bet in hopes that CO will raise me, getting other players to call 2 BBs. It's better than checking because they may work. If I don't bet the turn, there's no way I can force the field to call 2 bets which is what I really want to do.

[/ QUOTE ]

If you want to protect your hand, 3betting the flop is what you should be doing.

My instinct says 3bet the flop, also, but the board is pretty coordinated, so I don't know if we should or not.
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Old 06-06-2005, 04:59 AM
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Default Re: A Followup to \"Two Overpair Hands\"

You're actually right. The raiser on the flop was directly to my right. I should've 3-bet it. God damn.
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