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Old 04-29-2005, 08:53 AM
kreutz000 kreutz000 is offline
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Default Re: Anyone Capable of writing a poker bot?

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Or do image recognition on the screen.

Image recognition is not trivial...
And the hardest part of implementing a pre-flop Bot.


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While it would be 100x easier to just read the hand history, image recognition isn't all that it's cracked up to be.

C:\Program Files\PartyPoker\Images contains all of the images that are used for the cards. Take all of these files and get the MD5 sum of each picture. You'll end up with a unique sum for each picture.

Put these into a text file like this:
Ah=[md5data]
Kh=[md5data]
etc.

In your program, make a hashtable that's like this:
key=[md5data] value=Ah
key=[md5data] value=Kh
etc.

Then when your program runs you just capture an image of the screen and cut out the pictures where the cards are. Take the MD5 sum for what you've cut, put it into your hashtable and voila, you now know what cards are on the screen.

I have prior experience with this approach for a different type of software, so something like this would only take me an hour or two. For a newbie it would probably take some time to get accustomed with MD5, but it's pretty easy after that.
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Old 06-02-2005, 09:10 PM
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Default Re: Anyone Capable of writing a poker bot?

Yes, I could write you a poker bot. No, I'm not willing to write you a poker bot.

Anyone who would write you a poker bot would:
1) Know your pre-flop strategy well enough to sit at any table you play and take your money.
2) Have the bot tell him what you're holding so he can beat you at will. He'd only have to steal one pot from you each day to make it worth it and you'd never know.

And if he's really got larceny in his heart, the bot will give him your passwords, bank account numbers, etc, etc.

But then, no rentacoder would ever think of doing such a thing. Right?
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Old 06-02-2005, 09:58 PM
theredpill6 theredpill6 is offline
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Default Re: Anyone Capable of writing a poker bot?

Image recognition AKA screen scraping is easy. It may take a while if you are just learning C++ but once you figure it out, you can write those programs in at most 2 days.
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Old 06-02-2005, 10:03 PM
theredpill6 theredpill6 is offline
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Default Re: Anyone Capable of writing a poker bot?

I like these replies. "I could write you a poker bot but I won't. "

Writing an actual bot that could win at 3/6 limit and up is quite difficult.

The easiest bot to make. Here's a hint for anyone who wants to try this out. Go to http://www.holdem-winner.com/ The program is called "No Hands Hold'em" . I think that is it. This is a program that basically tells you every decision to make preflop and postflop and I believe they've even improved the AI on it. Just write a little screen scraping program to hook that up with party poker and there you go, you have your own bot in a matter of like 2 or 3 days if you already know how to write a screen scraping program. Problem is that I'm not sure that No Hands Hold'em can beat the .50/1 limit game on Party. Might want to try it and make sure you let us know how it goes. I'm actually curious. I make more money playing NL to bother with this.

BTW, this is redpill, I just got banned yesterday so I had to start another name.
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Old 06-05-2005, 09:21 PM
RedManPlus RedManPlus is offline
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Default Re: Anyone Capable of writing a poker bot?

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Yes, I could write you a poker bot. No, I'm not willing to write you a poker bot.

Anyone who would write you a poker bot would:
1) Know your pre-flop strategy well enough to sit at any table you play and take your money.
2) Have the bot tell him what you're holding so he can beat you at will. He'd only have to steal one pot from you each day to make it worth it and you'd never know.

And if he's really got larceny in his heart, the bot will give him your passwords, bank account numbers, etc, etc.

But then, no rentacoder would ever think of doing such a thing. Right?

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This is a ridiculous, paranoid post.

Coding a Poker Bot is perfectly legal...
Just as coding a Stock Trading Bot is perfectly legal.

But depending on your jurisdiction...
Playing online poker is probably illegal, though not enforced.

Why the f*ck do you think it's all offshore?
Why the f*ck do you think VISA, MC, and PayPal CANNOT deal with poker sites?
Because it's all a front for organized crime...
And since 9/11 new North American "money laundering" statutes...
Prohibit doing ANY business with organized crime groups.

And breaking into other people's bank accounts...
Will get you jail time 100% of the time...
Regardless of your jurisdiction.

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Old 06-05-2005, 09:40 PM
RedManPlus RedManPlus is offline
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Default Re: Anyone Capable of writing a poker bot?

And what exactly are your *** professional qualifications ***...
As a software engineer?

It's really funny how only those with none...
Trivialize the difficulty of building a Poker Bot.

It's a major project for a very talented engineer...
Not some odd job for a "rentacoder".

Also...
I cannot think of anything more boring...
And soul destroying than multi-tabling 40 hours a week.

But builing a Poker Bot is a fascinating project.

I've been exploring this for months...
But have decided to build a Stock Scalping Bot first.
The decision code will be all original...
Based on my experience of 200,000 NYSE trades.
It will manage it's very own account.
And it's perfectly legal.

As for a Poker Bot...
There's a lots of quality open source code around.

Pre-flop play is totally standard.

Post flop...
You would turn Sklansky's SSH into decision code...
Which would take a few 100 hours to optimize.

Complement it with some pretty basic AI...
Put a lot of thought into "detection avoidance"...
And you could probably grind out 1.0 BB/hour at $2/$4.

You can make a lot more money...
With a Stock Scalping Bot.

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Old 06-05-2005, 10:00 PM
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Default Re: Anyone Capable of writing a poker bot?

and some dolts wonder why I like animals more than people
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Old 06-06-2005, 05:02 AM
CaptSensible CaptSensible is offline
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Default Re: Anyone Capable of writing a poker bot?

check out www.texascalculatem.com
it shows you what the odds are of you winning the hand vs your opponents. will also give you suggestions on whether to check, fold, bet, raise, or reraise. You can set it to Tight, Average, or Loose play. It's suggestions are fairly obvious. I used this program more when i first started playing. Dont use it as much now but worth a peek.
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Old 06-06-2005, 04:20 PM
jdoulami jdoulami is offline
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Default Re: Anyone Capable of writing a poker bot?

Check out the latest version of No Hands Holdem (www.holdem-winner.com), they are doing exactly what you are asking for, basically they provide a strategy editor that allows you to enter your pre-flop strategy, plus it includes some options for random variability to avoid becoming predictable
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Old 06-06-2005, 05:53 PM
Rudbaeck Rudbaeck is offline
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Default Re: Anyone Capable of writing a poker bot?

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Writing an actual bot that could win at 3/6 limit and up is quite difficult.

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You are right. Which is why I'd write a bot to sit at the Party $400-$1000 NL tables, where the logic of the bot is trivial.

I'm actually amazed that there are no GSIH-bots out there already.

As I'm a Luddite I use slave labor for it. Which reminds me, stake more people! Hmm, setting up a sweatshop in India might be an idea...
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