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Old 06-03-2005, 09:52 AM
feelixthegreek feelixthegreek is offline
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Default Sweetening the inevitable chop?

MP 1 is 65/5 through about 40 hands. I've pegged him as a silly player.

Button is 15/3. I have no doubt he's holding an Ace.

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Preflop: Hero is BB with A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, UTG+2 calls, MP1 calls, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, CO calls, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, UTG+2 folds, MP1 calls, CO calls, Button calls.

Flop: (13.50 SB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, MP1 calls, CO calls, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, MP1 calls, CO folds, Button calls.

Turn: (11.75 BB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, MP1 calls, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises</font>, Hero calls, MP1 calls.

River: (17.75 BB) T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
Hero checks, MP1 checks, <font color="#CC3333">Button bets</font>, Hero calls, MP1 calls.

Final Pot: 20.75 BB

The turn and river calls were meant to keep MP1 involved. Correct?
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Old 06-03-2005, 10:16 AM
chief444 chief444 is offline
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Default Re: Sweetening the inevitable chop?

Sure, raising the river would be pretty bad here. Especially considering you're either chopping or behind AA (a small percentage of the time).
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Old 06-03-2005, 11:47 AM
feelixthegreek feelixthegreek is offline
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Default Re: Sweetening the inevitable chop?

Any merit to betting out the turn to try and sandwich MP1 between me and the button for two bets?
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Old 06-03-2005, 11:51 AM
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Default Re: Sweetening the inevitable chop?

Absolutely. I bet the turn every time. But it's tough to be sure you're splitting at that point since button may have raised the flop with less than an Ace. Once he raises again though you can be sure enough IMO to just call and check/call. You could consider bet/call again on the river but I think check/call is fine since MP1 could even have the third ace.
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Old 06-03-2005, 12:06 PM
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Default Re: Sweetening the inevitable chop?

I like bet call on river to trap MP1 again
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Old 06-03-2005, 12:14 PM
feelixthegreek feelixthegreek is offline
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Default Re: Sweetening the inevitable chop?

I never considered that MP1 had AA. It would be a coup for him if he has them, but he struck me as a player who would have capped the flop if that were the case.
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Old 06-03-2005, 12:40 PM
Nick C Nick C is offline
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Default Re: Sweetening the inevitable chop?

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I like bet call on river to trap MP1 again

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I like the idea too, but I have found that when I try this the trapped player in the middle will often anticipate another raise coming behind him and decide to give up.

I don't know if the silly player in question would, though. Also, I guess what I'm referring to has mostly occurred for me when I've tried a stop-n-go on the turn with a flopped monster. So I'm not sure how much what I just said applies here (as people frequently peel and then give up on the turn anyway).
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