Online funding legislation

[lorinda]

Right on the money as always Jek.

Personally, I would think a majority of the people couldn't give a flying **** what other people do with their money if it isn't harming anyone.

Lori

[Jeffage]

Why can't I and everyone else do what we want with our own goddamn money. WTF! This [censored] pisses me off. I'm currently doing very well online and would be majorly irritated if this is banned. What am I supposed to do, uproot myself from a city and job I enjoy so that I can play cards in a casino a few times a week because some moralist wants to tell me I "can't handle it" in a virtual environment? This is irritating. So if you have money in Neteller, what would you do...take it all out now? Or do we not have to worry about this for a year?

Jeff

[RiverMel]

I don't think withdrawals would be a problem.

[J.R.]

Check out article 1, section 8, clause 3. The power to regulate interstate, foreign and Indian commerce defeats your 10th Amendment argument.

I have no idea what 9th Amendment argument you are relying on. What right retained by the people are you refering to? Certainly not any judically recognized fundamental right reserved to the people, such as family or privacy, would permit a basis to challenge the regulation of foreign commerce (I don't know of any online gaming establishments based in the US, but they would be subject to regulation as interstate commerce).

By the way, I am pretty sure there are only 7 Articles in the United States Constitution, what other argument are you thinking about here?

[CtPokerPro]

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It seems there is an easy solution.....
Deposit money before the legislation is put into law, then dont lose.

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I agree. One of the reasons I have stayed at Paradise is that I have built a BR there, and do not need to make any further deposits. My original deposits (a total of 2 of them), were made when paypal was still processing. Now I make sure to leave enough so I don't have to worry about joining NETeller.

If and when I add another site or two, I will send a bank draft so that I do not have to open a NETeller account. Hopefully I will be able to build a BR there as well, and just take out checks when I have $500 above what I like to leave in the site. My guess is that NETeller will be shut down if this legislation passes, and I don't want to risk having an unregulated, non-insured, out of the country, money mover holding my funds. The best method is to deposit via bank draft or wire transfer BEFORE the legislation goes to be signed, and like RollaJ says, don't lose. lol [img]/forums/images/icons/grin.gif[/img]

[Glenn]

Hi FA-

I can say with some certainty that the congressman who sponsered the bill does not, in fact, feel it is what the majority of his constituants want. I have never heard any non-politician say internet gambling should be outlawed. He feels the need to protect people from themselves and thinks the solution to this is to impose his own (superior) morals upon them. He stands on moral high ground, and if everyone had his ideals (which mainly stem from his religion) there would be no problems. Since we are too stupid to agree to this, he will use whatever lies necessary (terrorism in this case) to push forth his bill. This is the truth.

[Emperor]

Doesn't this bible thumper know that the apostles gambled?

Check out the book of Acts. The apostles had two potential apostles "cast lots" to see who would take Judas' place.

Seriously check it out.

[FA_man]

Kind of like the PM of Israel continuing to build new developments while displacing Palestinians, all the while the people of Israel are screaming for him to stop. Hmmm

Few things:
1 All of the people in Israel are not screaming at the PM we just had elections and his party got a big voter share
2 Palestinians are not being displaced
3 The government has taken down illegal israeli settlements that are in supposed palestinian territory, but allows Bedouin illegal settlements in south Israel to go unchecked


As for your views on the US government, I dont know, I always had a little more faith in it than that. I still vote you know... absentee ballots, and im not voting for anyone who supports stopping online gambling.

-FA_man

[FA_man]

The constitution clearly states that any law not written in it is given over to the people to make their own.

So I really think youve got it backwards. You have to site the passage that specifically gives you the right to gamble online. Not some vague interpretation &amp; conjunctions of articles and ammendments not related to the subject.

[Kurn, son of Mogh]

Since this is not a political philosophy board, I'll stop after this post;

It is you who has it backwards. In fact, it is precisely the loose-constructionist view you hold that has led to activist judges raping the constitution for over a century, opening the door to such atricities (hyperbole here)as the income tax, the war on drugs and wholesale flouting of the bill of rights (e.g. gun control, laws against polygamy are most definitely unconstitutional, though I can't imagine why anyone would want more than one wife.)

Where is Barry Goldwater now that we need him?