AJs, enough outs to call down with this?

pdxjayhawk · #1 06-01-2005, 12:49 AM

Early at table, there are some guys doing the "any two suited" thing, but don't think villian is one of them.

Were there enough outs to keep going with this?

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Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
UTG calls, Hero raises, 1 fold, MP2 calls, 1 fold, Button calls, 1 fold, BB calls, UTG calls.

Flop: (10.50 SB) K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (5 players)
BB checks, UTG checks, Hero bets, MP2 calls, Button raises, BB folds, UTG folds, Hero 3-bets, MP2 folds, Button calls.

Turn: (8.75 BB) K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, Button bets, Hero calls.

River: (10.75 BB) 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, Button bets, Hero folds.

Final Pot: 11.75 BB

Jakesta · #2 06-01-2005, 12:51 AM

3betting this flop is insane.

2+2 wannabe · #3 06-01-2005, 12:58 AM

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SoftcoreRevolt · #4 06-01-2005, 01:02 AM

I'm not even sure I bet the flop since we have terrible position, two broadways on the flop, and quite a few people involved. We aren't getting a free card on the turn, and aren't winning here.

Messy Harry · #5 06-01-2005, 01:13 AM

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Um...no.

Iq75 · #6 06-01-2005, 01:30 AM

I Would not 3 - bet the flop, cause you have only a gutshot and a overcard and it's very probable that atleast some of the other players hit the flop (with KQ on board it's very possible that you are against two pair, and in that scenario your overcard is no good).

I would fold the turn. Your potodds do not look too good and there are KKQ and two [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] on board so two of your outs are dirty and you could be drawing dead to a full house.

pdxjayhawk · #7 06-01-2005, 01:33 AM

I figured I played the hand like a dumb**s. I felt like I was starting to develop fit or fold disease. Throwing away some hands that could have done well if I'd stayed with them.

Picked the wrong place to be aggressive post flop.

scotty34 · #8 06-01-2005, 01:55 AM

I think I would be check-calling the flop. I certainly would not 3-bet it. You have the outs + implied odds for your gutshot here, and your A outs may be good. Once that turn rolls around though, its check-fold time. You A outs are probably gone now, you don't have odds to draw to the gutshot, and those outs may be tainted or already dead.

Weatherhead03 · #9 06-01-2005, 02:04 AM

I definately dont see a 3-bet in the flop, more of a check call, since you bet and he raised just call from there...once the second K hits on the turn and he bets i'd fold.