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Old 05-30-2005, 11:33 AM
pk Wools pk Wools is offline
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thoughts?

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MP2 ($7.75)
CO ($9.20)
Button ($4)
SB ($8.58)
BB ($13.50)
UTG ($10.20)
UTG+1 ($12.50)
Hero ($7.43)

Preflop: Hero is MP1 with Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
UTG calls $0.10, UTG+1 calls $0.10, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $0.6</font>, <font color="#666666">5 folds</font>, UTG calls $0.50, UTG+1 folds.

Flop: ($1.45) 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
UTG checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $1.2</font>, UTG calls $1.20.

Turn: ($3.85) 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
UTG checks, Hero checks.

River: ($3.85) 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">UTG bets $3.85</font>, Hero calls $3.85.

Final Pot: $11.55

Results in white below: <font color="#FFFFFF">
UTG has 3s As (straight, five high).
Hero has Qc Qh (one pair, queens).
Outcome: UTG wins $11.55. </font>
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Old 05-30-2005, 11:55 AM
BZ_Zorro BZ_Zorro is offline
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I overbet the pot on the flop (say $2) and push the turn unless it's an A.

If this was $50+NL it'd play out differently of course, but here I think that's a standard play with a strong hand like that.
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Old 05-30-2005, 11:57 AM
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river bet really looks like he can beat an overpair and wants you to pay him off and ill tell you why.

if you have AK he doesn't need to bet quite so much to get you to fold, and he probably knows this. what he probably isn't taking into account (given the stakes you're playing) is that you know he knows this, so he probably won't be betting the full pot on a bluff (it's just too expensive because you are probably only folding high card hands once you check the turn). he knows you probably either have an overpair or nothing. so if he has no hand he will bet so that you will fold AK/AQ. if he can beat an overpair he'll bet as much as he thinks you'll call (the full pot). he is most likely not trying to get you to fold an overpair.

something to keep in mind.
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Old 05-30-2005, 01:32 PM
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anyone else think i should move in on the turn? I was afraid of the flush which is why i checked
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Old 05-30-2005, 01:36 PM
Inevitable Inevitable is offline
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If you thought he had the flush on the turn, why did you call his river bet? If you thought he was bluffing, why didn't you raise?
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Old 05-30-2005, 01:48 PM
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If you thought he had the flush on the turn, why did you call his river bet? If you thought he was bluffing, why didn't you raise?

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Old 05-30-2005, 01:49 PM
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anyone else think i should move in on the turn?

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Just to be clear I'm not advocating pushing the turn here...only if you overbet the flop. And only at these limits. In this case I check the turn, fold the river.
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