5/10 PP small pairs

BabyJesus · #1 05-29-2005, 06:33 PM

Villian in this hand is 58/11.3/1.04 over 250 hands or so

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Preflop: Hero is BB with 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
3 folds, SB raises, Hero 3-bets, SB calls.

Flop: (6 SB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
SB bets, Hero raises, SB calls.

Turn: (5 BB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
SB bets, Hero calls.
I feel like here he would have check raised if he did in fact hit the Q, smells like semi bluff. I call here planning to call a safe river card. He's not folding for one raise so I call hoping he might bluff on river should he miss, or I can fold a crappy river.

River: (7 BB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
SB bets, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 9 BB

BB is in this hand is 40/13.87/.45 over 150 hands or so

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Preflop: Hero is MP with 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
1 fold, Hero raises, 1 fold, SB calls, BB 3-bets, Hero caps, SB calls, BB calls.
When he 3 bets I throw in the cap to disguise my hand and try and keep initiative.

Flop: (12 SB) T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (3 players)
SB checks, BB bets, Hero calls, SB folds.
Decent flop, I put him on AK or so. I just call to see if SB has any piece of this flop and not give BB the chance to 3 bet me should he have me beat.

Turn: (7 BB) T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
BB bets, Hero calls.
Another safe card, I still call him here hoping he'll bet another river and I can just call down.

River: (9 BB) K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
BB bets, Hero calls.
Puke, I figure he has AK up to this point. I hate this card, I'm about to fold but figure he could have possibly played AQ the same way. Bad call here? Should have given up earlier?

Final Pot: 11 BB

Comments? Results to follow.

dave44 · #2 05-29-2005, 07:27 PM

Hand 1 is tough, I probably call the turn with my tiny flush draw and 2 outs and the chance he checks the river. River looks like a safe fold though against a player who seems passive according to the numbers.

Hand 2 you have way overplayed your hand. I would have folded preflop, but if I had raised it, I would have just called the 3-bet. I guess I would make a play at this pot at somepoint, probably raising the flop to isolate with BB, but you have to put your opponent on a range of hands- not just AK.

BabyJesus · #3 05-29-2005, 08:33 PM

If i'm calling the turn on hand one, the river changes nothing, like I said in my read, I didn't think he had a Q. His bet seems like a semi bluff, for example a big diamond.

hand 2:
I don't like the idea of making a play at this pot. I can beat a bluff, if he has me beat his isn't folding, and if he has a big pair JJ QQ KK AA he's going to 3 bet me most likely.

marand · #4 05-29-2005, 08:39 PM

I think you overplayed both hands. Villian is a loose passive and keeps betting and raising.

EvanJC · #5 05-29-2005, 08:40 PM

is the preflop play in hand one standard?

marand · #6 05-29-2005, 08:44 PM

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is the preflop play in hand one standard?

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Not for me, I rather just call and look at the flop before I commit to anything. 22 is not a favorite preflop. If the flop is 3 high cards I rather just fold on the flop.

BabyJesus · #7 05-29-2005, 08:50 PM

Maybe i should take out the PT stats, they were not open at the time, and don't display the table dynamics at the time which lead to my actions on both hands.

BabyJesus · #8 05-29-2005, 09:23 PM

Hand 1: Villian shows A [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] Tx
Hand 2: Villian shows AQ

dave44 · #9 05-29-2005, 09:31 PM

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I didn't think he had a Q

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You're losing to a lot more than just a pair of queens. You have to consider that he may have a pair and be ahead or he may be on a semi-bluff like you assume.

The difference between the turn and river is on the turn you are drawing to a flush and your set outs, on the river your hand will never be more than a pair of 2's.