giving up too quick?

VBM · #1 05-29-2005, 03:26 AM

not sure about PFR, nor about post-flop line. villain is TAG.

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Preflop: Hero is MP1 with J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
2 folds, Hero raises, 2 folds, Button 3-bets, 2 folds, Hero calls.

Flop: (7.50 SB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, Button bets, Hero raises, Button 3-bets, Hero calls.

Turn: (6.75 BB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, Button bets, Hero folds.

Final Pot: 7.75 BB

Jakesta · #2 05-29-2005, 03:30 AM

I don't like the PFR. First in from MP3+ I like it.

As for the hand, I think I play it the same. I'm not sure how many outs you have, though. If you are up against AK then you only have 3 good outs.

penisclaw · #3 05-29-2005, 03:31 AM

Dont raise PF.
Based on buttons TAG and preflop reraise, he likely holds AA, KK, or AK. I think I call the flop, and check-fold the turn.

Jakesta · #4 05-29-2005, 03:34 AM

I'm not sure that we can narrow his possible hands down that much, but I think that he definitely has a pair of Aces or better. He could have AQ, AJs, etc.

SoftcoreRevolt · #5 05-29-2005, 03:42 AM

I'd limp PF, and wouldn't call the raise (assuming it was heads up.)

Shillx · #6 05-29-2005, 03:42 AM

I don't like the PFR. First in from MP3+ I like it.\

This is nonsense dude. Think about it...

If KQo is worth a raise UTG, surely KJo is worth a raise from the 3 hole. It is also 8 handed which makes it even easier.

Brad

Jakesta · #7 05-29-2005, 03:43 AM

Who says to raise KQo UTG? I didn't see it in the SSH charts, so I haven't done it.

Shillx · #8 05-29-2005, 03:45 AM

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Who says to raise KQo UTG?

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I do

Jakesta · #9 05-29-2005, 03:47 AM

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Who says to raise KQo UTG?

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I do

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I see. Well I respect your poker advice, even though that is not in the SSH charts. How else should I vary my preflop play? Should I raise AJo and ATo UTG as well?

huxuk · #10 05-29-2005, 03:48 AM

Hi! I'm a newbie here. Just taking Grunchcan's challenge so take this with a grain of salt...

I don't raise J [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]K [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] from early position, maybe not even limp just, fold (depends on table)
I check/fold the flop...
CR might be a good idea against a weak player, but I think a TAG would call you down no matter what and you would loose...