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Old 05-28-2005, 01:02 AM
James Lang James Lang is offline
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Default Stars 20+2 hand, was this the correct move?

Was it correct to lay this hand down?

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t200 (9 handed) PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t200 (9 handed) converter

CO (t2955)
Hero (t3242)
SB (t1705)
BB (t1510)
UTG (t2554)
UTG+1 (t3011)
MP1 (t7890)
MP2 (t3210)
MP3 (t6195)

Preflop: Hero is Button with T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 raises to t800</font>, MP1 calls t800, <font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB raises to t1705</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 raises to t3011</font>, MP1 folds.

Flop: (t5716) 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>

Turn: (t5716) 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>

River: (t5716) Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>

Final Pot: t5716

Results in white below: <font color="#FFFFFF">
SB has 3s 3d (two pair, jacks and threes).
UTG+1 has 7d 7h (two pair, jacks and sevens).
Outcome: UTG+1 wins t5716. </font>
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Old 05-28-2005, 10:52 AM
sfwusc sfwusc is offline
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Default Re: Stars 20+2 hand, was this the correct move?

if you thought one had a bigger pair...fold.

if you thought both had over cards then likely should have gone all in. 3-4 overs would have been good equity for you.

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Old 05-28-2005, 10:53 AM
sfwusc sfwusc is offline
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Default Re: Stars 20+2 hand, was this the correct move?

if you thought both might have unpairs then you should push like all get out.

Basicly unless you thought one had AA, KK, QQ, JJ... you should push.

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Old 05-28-2005, 12:16 PM
McMelchior McMelchior is offline
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Default Re: Stars 20+2 hand, was this the correct move?

You need some kind of read here to plot your course of action.

UTG+1 makes a BIG raise - committing more than 25% of of his stack. Is this the standard raise on this table? Is he trying to avoid callers (at this level mis-concieved EP steals frequently abund)? Is he trying to elicit a re-raise so that he can move in with his AK? Or did he just lose a bunch of chips and might be on tilt?

MP1 cold calls for 10% of his stack. Has he been making a lot of loose calls? Is he holding a big pair and trying to invite a re-raise from one of the remaining players?

Also of importance is whether next blind level is the 200/100/25 or 400/200/25, and how soon it is to come.

IF UTG+1 has a track record of aggression - and IF MP1 has shown loose-goosey tendencies - and IF the blinds are about to double - THEN I'd move in for sure.

IF none or only one of these conditions are present I'd probably fold like you did - TT rarely fares THAT well all-in in a 3-way pot.

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