I dont like betting this river!

[trentcroad]

Villan is a TAG.
I think Ive copped such a hammering lately that Im expecting to loose it on the river everytime.
Do I fold to a river raise here?

Party Poker 3/6 Hold'em (9 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is BB with J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. UTG+1 posts a blind of $3.
UTG calls, UTG+1 (poster) checks, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, MP3 calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Hero calls, UTG calls, UTG+1 calls, MP3 calls.

Flop: (10.33 SB) T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font>
Hero checks, UTG checks, UTG+1 checks, MP3 checks, <font color="#CC3333">Button bets</font>, Hero calls, UTG calls, UTG+1 folds, <font color="#CC3333">MP3 raises</font>, Button folds, Hero calls, UTG folds.

Turn: (8.16 BB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP3 bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, MP3 calls.

River: (12.16 BB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, MP3 calls.

Final Pot: 14.16 BB

[Harv72b]

Easiest river value bet ever. And I'm calling a raise every time. A halfway decent TAG is not going to c/r this flop from his position with a set.

[trentcroad]

I knew I had to bet.
I think its just the tilt talking!

Cheers Harv

[brettbrettr]

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Do I fold to a river raise here?

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Never.

[DrewOnTilt]

Bet out and call a raise. You can't just assume that you are beat every time you are raised.

Seriously, if you are tilting so badly as to even think about folding to a raise here, you might want to take some time away from the tables.

[Jake (The Snake)]

I think the PF call is pretty questionable, though since the raise comes from a potential bully button, I guess its OK. If button doesn't understand stealing though, I'd fold.

As for the river, this is a VERY easy call if there is a raise.

Against a complete idiot, I might even reraise expecting to see AT (oh wow now I have two pair!) or a dry 9.

[Harv72b]

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I think the PF call is pretty questionable, though since the raise comes from a potential bully button, I guess its OK. If button doesn't understand stealing though, I'd fold.

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With 4 other players + a poster, Hero figures to be getting at least 9:1 on the preflop call (barring a limp/reraise). QJo is as automatic as they come in this situation.

[Jake (The Snake)]

Yeah i didn't notice the poster. With 3 limpers before the raise calling should be pretty easily correct.

With only 1 limper before the raise though, I'm pretty sure I fold. Weak offsuit hands really suck OOP.

[Lestat]

Heads up by the river you should definitely bet. If raised, you pay it off.

Btw- A check/raise on the flop wouldn't have been bad.