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j8s 8 6.11%
j7s 1 0.76%
t8s 13 9.92%
78s 13 9.92%
67s 9 6.87%
97s 9 6.87%
96s 2 1.53%
86s 2 1.53%
j9o 4 3.05%
qto 19 14.50%
q9o 3 2.29%
q8o 1 0.76%
q8s 7 5.34%
k9o 9 6.87%
k8o 2 1.53%
k6s 1 0.76%
k2s 0 0%
a2o 2 1.53%
a4o 3 2.29%
a6o 6 4.58%
t9s 17 12.98%
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Old 05-27-2005, 06:22 PM
JayLeno JayLeno is offline
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Default ULTIMATE BET CHEATS?

A friend of mine played in a tourney at UB and was on 12 th place.
They payed 10 first.
He was shortstacked and whent all in with A2.
2 guys called him. And on the flop the first one wrote in the chat before he acted: Dont be stupid.
Then he checked, and the other guy checked - and they checked it out.
My friend emailed UB but they didnt care about it.
The question following is about the guy who said dont be stupid:
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Old 05-27-2005, 06:58 PM
sfwusc sfwusc is offline
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Default Re: ULTIMATE BET CHEATS?

Cheating no?

Stupid, yes.

Anyone knows that close to the money you are going to check it down unless you have something good. The equity of the pot is less than the equity of removing the all in from the tournment.

-SFWUSC
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Old 05-27-2005, 07:51 PM
GrannyMae GrannyMae is offline
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Default Re: ULTIMATE BET CHEATS?

the first one wrote in the chat before he acted: Dont be stupid.


had he said "let's check it down", or someone said "don't bet", then it would be inducing action via chat and that is cheating at all sites.

since he said "don't be stupid", then he is just a dick with no ethics. it has to be black and white
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Old 05-27-2005, 08:26 PM
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Default Re: ULTIMATE BET CHEATS?

Paradise disables chat when someone's all-in. They have the right idea. Eliminates a lot of the grey-area bullshit like this.

--Polly
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Old 05-27-2005, 08:52 PM
JayLeno JayLeno is offline
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Default Re: ULTIMATE BET CHEATS?

-So does pokerstars - I think its a great idea - and all the sites should do this.
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Old 05-27-2005, 08:57 PM
Stew Stew is offline
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Default Re: ULTIMATE BET CHEATS?

[ QUOTE ]
Paradise disables chat when someone's all-in. They have the right idea. Eliminates a lot of the grey-area bullshit like this.

--Polly

[/ QUOTE ]

I agree with this and I have to also disagree that it's NOT cheating. Well, I wouldn't say it is cheating, but it is certainly implied collusion, in my opinion, and it should not be tolerated by any site.

Disabling chat while there's an all-in is the way to go and Stars has it right.
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Old 05-28-2005, 01:50 AM
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Default Re: ULTIMATE BET CHEATS?

gentlemen's agreement
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Old 05-28-2005, 02:35 AM
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Default Re: ULTIMATE BET CHEATS?

This is clearly cheating. What else could it mean, other than "check it down?"

Keep complaining to UB.
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Old 05-28-2005, 06:38 AM
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Default Re: ULTIMATE BET CHEATS?

Yep, no doubt about it - it maybe close to the border, but he crossed it, by inducing the other to check.

I admit in a situation like this, I feel the same way inside talking to the monitor saying "Dont be stupid... check it down."

Nonetheless it is revealing in some way. You have to think that the other guy, could have good reason to push no1 out. Besides by saying "dont be stupid", he is clearly he might indicate that he is willing to fold the hand if neccessary.

You guys who think this alright, go and do it at a BM pokerroom, I doubt that the floormanager would be pleased.
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Old 05-28-2005, 08:37 AM
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Default Re: ULTIMATE BET CHEATS?

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gentlemen's agreement

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Wrong
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