what would you do in this situation?

[allinadam]

First hand of a home tournament. Everyone has 500 in chips. Blinds are 5-10.
Hero
UTG+1
UTG+2
MP
MP+1
MP+2
Dealer
Small Blind

Hero calls the big blind with J8 of spades.
(Four folds)
MP+2 calls big blind.
Dealer calls big blind.
Small blind raises 25.
Big blind calls.
Everyone else calls.

Flop comes 5(spade) queen(diamond) 10(spade). This gives Hero a flush draw and an inside straight draw.
Small blind bets 25.
Big blind calls. Hero calls. MP+2 re-raises to 100. (MP+2 is a solid player who would not re-raise without a strong hand.)
Dealer folds, small blind calls, big blind folds.
What should Hero do? Also, what are the percentages he hits his flush or straight?

/sorry if this is hard to read, this is my first post

[killyourearn]

I'd probably fold if MP+2 is indeed a tight player. Your odds of hitting a diamond here are less than 50% (somewhere near 30%, actually). Out of the 52 cards in the deck there are 33 left. There are 13 diamonds in the deck, and 4 are already out, bringing the remaining total to 9. Your approximate odds (best case scenario) of hitting a diamond on the turn is 9/33 (27%). If you miss the diamond on the turn you are 9 out of 32 or 28%. That's too slim of odds to call on a pot that otherwise is not that large.

[Skink3]

I probably would have folded the suited J8 from the get-go.

[TomHimself]

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I probably would have folded the suited J8 from the get-go.

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[allinadam]

I also had an inside straight draw which brought my total number of outs to 13/47=27%*1.8?=48.6???

I'm not sure if that is a correct calculation.

[ricochet420]

IN THE DARK

I would fold that crap pf, especially first hand of a tourney?

[MrBrightside]

that's easy.. I'd fold the j8 sOOted without even thinking twice..

The thing about playing hands like this from early position is.. suppose you get a small raise (like to 30 chips) behind you. You call (after all, it's only 20 more chips and you have 500). Now the flop is Jh5s6h.. there is like 120 in the pot because you have 4 callers, so you bet out with 60 chips (1/2 pot) and you are raised behind (like all-in). you CAN'T call, you're definitely beat, but you've just pissed away 90 chips (almost 20% of your stack).

I've had these situations too many times, both online and in home tourneys like the one you describe. You HAVE to learn to pitch that hand preflop. Period.

[stu-unger]

my opinion is this, i think u should have raised the sb's bet to something like the size of the pot with that super strong drawing hand for 2 reasons. U have to chance to win the pot right there and u define your hand this way if mp+2 re-raises u u have a clear folding hand and if u get called and hit they cant put u on your hand. with the way u played it u have to fold to the re-raise because u cant get paid if u hit. the odds of u hitting your hand is somewhere in the neighborhood of 48%.

[EStreet20]

Fold preflop. Save yourself the brain racking, and the money you will lose if you play trash like that in any tournament. After that if I read correctly your pot odds are about 4 to 1 (maybe 3 I ead quickly, against a "solid player") Thus you must assume that if you miss your flush draw he's going all in on the turn. Plus if the other guy's calling he may easily have a higher flush draw. So decide whether to fold or to gamboooool and spend the rest of the night drinking and watching the tourney.

Good luck,
Matt