Checkraised on a terrible flop

[Ghazban]

And on the river?

[TheWorstPlayer]

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And on the river?

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Call.

[Ghazban]

How is checking behind on the flop and then calling off your stack any different than betting the flop and calling an all-in checkraise? I think you win less against a naked ace of diamonds (as they won't put any more in on the river but would've been all-in sooner) but still lose when you're behind. Is it worth it to take this line just so you can fold if a 4th diamond hits?

[TheWorstPlayer]

Who's folding if a fourth diamond hits?

[Ghazban]

OK, please explain to me why you prefer a check behind, call, call line. I originally assumed you were folding to a 4th diamond as we don't have one but I guess that's not what you had in mind.

[TheWorstPlayer]

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OK, please explain to me why you prefer a check behind, call, call line. I originally assumed you were folding to a 4th diamond as we don't have one but I guess that's not what you had in mind.

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OK, you are villain with KK, how do you play? You are villain with QQ, how do you play? You are villain with A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]Kx how do you play? You are villain with AxKx how do you play? Etc. Work out how he plays each possible hand and my belief is that you will win more/lose less by checking the flop, calling when bet into, betting if checked to on the turn, calling the river if bet into, checking behind on the river if checked to. No matter what hits. If a diamond hits the turn and he bets turn AND river, I might fold.

[Ghazban]

I will have to think about this. My gut feeling is that I'll win a bunch of smaller pots to strong one-diamond hands (like QdQx and AdX) and lose just as much to the flopped flush or a flopped set. I could be wrong...