Incorrect plays?

oLyphant · #1 05-26-2005, 02:34 PM

Villian was 20% vpip ; 9%pfr
I'm mainly concerned about my turn and river bets..
Party Poker 0.5/1 Hold'em (9 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is MP1 with T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
2 folds, Hero calls, MP2 raises, 4 folds, BB calls, Hero calls.

Flop: (6.50 SB) T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (3 players)
BB checks, Hero checks, MP2 bets, BB calls, Hero raises, MP2 calls, BB calls.

Turn: (6.25 BB) 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (3 players)
BB checks, Hero bets, MP2 calls, BB calls.

River: (9.25 BB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (3 players)
BB checks, Hero bets, MP2 calls, BB calls.

Final Pot: 12.25 BB

davelin · #2 05-26-2005, 02:37 PM

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I'm mainly concerned about my turn and river bets..

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I'd also be concerned about your pre-flop play. Post-flop looked fine to me.

oLyphant · #3 05-26-2005, 02:40 PM

So you wouldnt normally play QTos in this situation if you're only one tabling?

Firefly · #4 05-26-2005, 02:41 PM

I don't like open limping QTo in MP1.
I like the rest.

davelin · #5 05-26-2005, 02:41 PM

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So you wouldnt normally play QTos in this situation if you're only one tabling?

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I certainly wouldn't open-limp in this situation.

gopnik · #6 05-26-2005, 02:42 PM

fold preflop. The rest looks fine.

oLyphant · #7 05-26-2005, 02:45 PM

ok, ty, when is limping with QT smart? or is ever?

davelin · #8 05-26-2005, 02:47 PM

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ok, ty, when is limping with QT smart? or is ever?

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Limping? Late position at best.

atnels · #9 05-26-2005, 02:52 PM

QTo is an easy fold here. Weak offsuit broadways are really bad in this situation (open limping from EP & MP). I really only play them in LP when 1 or 2 poorer players have already limped.

Given your flop c/r, I don't think you have a choice but to bet out on the turn and river.

I don't have a huge problem with the flop c/r. Your stats on MP2 suggest he has decent preflop standards, but how passive/aggressive is he? Would he just call down with AA given your 'scary' c/r? What about BB? Are these guys total calling stations, because what would they be calling down with on this board?

I'm not implying anything with these questions, just trying to argue the importance of more substantial reads; preflop action % alone don't really tell you a ton.

dozer · #10 05-26-2005, 03:09 PM

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ok, ty, when is limping with QT smart? or is ever?

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I would open raise it in the CO or button as a blind steal, Or limp with it in a 9-10 way family pot in the CO or button.

Every other time it's turbo muck.