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Old 05-15-2005, 07:09 PM
aK13 aK13 is offline
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I am going to go to my room and repeat 100 times :"you must cap preflop with KK"

You guys didn't slap me around like I was due. I got to quit playing like a girlie man.

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If you were playing No-Limit, and somebody went All-in preflop, would you fold KK? If the answer is yes, we're playing some $1000 HU NL games. Otherwise, this is the exact same situation as your hand.
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Old 05-16-2005, 02:37 AM
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Default Re: Is this pot big enough?

Well you need to cap PF, 3-bet turn. You missed a couple bets.
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Old 05-16-2005, 02:49 AM
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Default Re: Is this pot big enough?

cap pre flop, 3 bet turn and if capped then maybe think about calling down, what are you afraid of pre flop? AA?
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Old 05-16-2005, 05:24 AM
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Is this pot big enough?

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I hope you never seriously think about that when it deciding to bet or now(in a situation like this)
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Old 05-26-2005, 12:40 PM
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Default Re: Is this pot big enough?

Since Hero didn't cap pre-flop, would a check-raise on the flop be in order?
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Old 05-26-2005, 12:51 PM
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Default Re: Is this pot big enough?

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I am going to go to my room and repeat 100 times :"you must cap preflop with KK"

You guys didn't slap me around like I was due. I got to quit playing like a girlie man.

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DAMN IT! CAP KK PREFLOP YOU WUSS!

That better? [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

-G
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Old 05-26-2005, 12:57 PM
davelin davelin is offline
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Default Re: Is this pot big enough?

I don't really like this hand. Cap pre-flop. Hate your turn/river action.
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Old 05-26-2005, 01:15 PM
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Default Re: Is this pot big enough?

You seem to have played this hand pretty well.

You could possibly have capped PF. Other than that, the next question was whether to 3-bet the turn or not.

I would not have felt comfortable with 3-betting the turn though, because MP3 had shown a lot of agression by 3-betting PF and raising on the turn, and could have had AA.

I would then have checked and called on the river for the same reason stated above.

My question to you though is, if you were going to the bet the river (presumably unless a 4 fell), why didnt you 3-bet the turn also? Then your river bet would have made more sense to me.

By the way, your play won you more bets than my line.
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Old 05-26-2005, 03:35 PM
Aaron W. Aaron W. is offline
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Default Re: Is this pot big enough?

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My plan was to build pot and and bet with some agression ...

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Why didn't you cap preflop?

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and fold if something convinced me if I was beat.

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Folding should generally *NOT* be part of the plan with KK until (at the minimum) you see an ace on the board or the action is capped by someone other than you. In context, it sounds like you're talking about this as part fo your preflop thinking, which is very very bad.

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My plan was left behind when MP3 3 bet. He dragged a pot or two earlier with a big bet earlier but I had seen him fold after a large bet. I felt that the best decision would be to see the flop and see if my hand would hold up.

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This is that context that I'm talking about. This is ultra-weak-tight thinking. The only way MP3's bet tells you you're beat is if he will ONLY 3-bet AA. Against everything else, you're a big favorite.

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Let me know what you think please.

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You need to be more confident in these big hands.
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Old 05-26-2005, 10:03 PM
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Default Re: Is this pot big enough?

I cap pre-flop for sure.

The way you played it, I think you should call the turn and check to him on the river. He's representing a straight or set so I think checking might induce a bluff if your ahead, and it saves you a bet if your behind. Definitely call this one down though.
Re-raise the turn against a maniac?
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