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Standard line?
I do this alot so I just want to make sure I'm on the right track. The Button was pretty much an unknown, but he seemed to be playing alot of hands so far.
Party Poker 2/4 Hold'em (9 handed) converter Preflop: Hero is MP3 with 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]. <font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Button calls, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>. Flop: (5.50 SB) T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, Button calls. Turn: (5.75 BB) K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises</font>, Hero calls. River: (9.75 BB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">Button bets</font>, Hero calls. Final Pot: 11.75 BB |
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Re: Standard line?
I don't think you can call the river here. Everything beats you. If he had the flush draw, he got it. If he had a better Ace, he got it. If he had a King - he's got you.
This is why it is so difficult to play OOP. FWIW - I call anything but a diamond/paint card on the river as that completes the only draws that I can safely put villain on (if I am ahead here at all). Aside from that, you are really hoping for a split pot here against a weaker A - but are likely facing AJ/AQ. |
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Re: Standard line?
i would have folded on the turn here.what did he call your raise with?you 3 bet the flop and he still raises the turn?unless he is a maniac you must be beat?
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Re: Standard line?
Good point on the river call. I will have to watch that.
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Re: Standard line?
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I don't think you can call the river here. Everything beats you. If he had the flush draw, he got it. If he had a better Ace, he got it. If he had a King - he's got you. This is why it is so difficult to play OOP. FWIW - I call anything but a diamond/paint card on the river as that completes the only draws that I can safely put villain on (if I am ahead here at all). Aside from that, you are really hoping for a split pot here against a weaker A - but are likely facing AJ/AQ. [/ QUOTE ] I think we should fold the turn. Hero raised prelop, 3-betted the flop and bets out on the turn. If he's able to raise with a weak ace, a gut-shot or a flushdraw he deserves the pot. |
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Re: Standard line?
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I think we should fold the turn. Hero raised prelop, 3-betted the flop and bets out on the turn. If he's able to raise with a weak ace, a gut-shot or a flushdraw he deserves the pot. [/ QUOTE ] I agree that the turn raise is very bad for hero here. Maybe fold the turn, not sure. Alternative is 3-bet turn and bet out non-flush/paint river (if you think you are ahead) - this is very aggressive though and dependant on opponents ability to lay down hands on river... Or ofcourse, check/call turn and bet out river (representing the flush ourselves). I could see all these plays working sometimes, but I think most of the time we are beat here and have to lay down to turn raise. |
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I think I just found a leak in my game, I call this every time. Thanks for pointing this out.
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Alternative is 3-bet turn and bet out non-flush/paint river (if you think you are ahead) [/ QUOTE ] This would be spewing IMO. You'll even get a K to slow down by 3-betting the turn. Most often we'll be drawing to 2 outs on this turn so I'll fold. |
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