Flopped bottom set from the SB

penisclaw · #1 05-24-2005, 08:27 PM

First post here, and I am trying to improve my play. Any feedback / suggestions on how I played this hand?

Party Poker 0.5/1 Hold'em (9 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is SB with 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
1 fold, UTG+1 calls, 2 folds, MP3 raises, 2 folds, Hero calls, BB calls, UTG+1 calls.

Flop: (8 SB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (4 players)
Hero bets, BB calls, UTG+1 folds, MP3 raises, Hero 3-bets, BB calls, MP3 caps, Hero calls, BB calls.

Turn: (10 BB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (3 players)
Hero bets, BB calls, MP3 raises, Hero 3-bets, BB folds, MP3 calls.

River: (17 BB) T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero bets, MP3 calls.

Final Pot: 19 BB

shadow29 · #2 05-24-2005, 08:29 PM

Looks good.

Redd · #3 05-24-2005, 08:30 PM

I'd play it the same way.

penisclaw · #4 05-24-2005, 08:33 PM

Ok. I was just worried that I was being too aggressive vs the raises by MP3, thinking he could have top set or the flush.

kapw7 · #5 05-24-2005, 08:34 PM

I would check-call the river. But I had too many bad beats lately...

moot · #6 05-24-2005, 08:36 PM

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Ok. I was just worried that I was being too aggressive vs the raises by MP3, thinking he could have top set or the flush.

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What flush?

EDIT == Check calling is absurd.

shadow29 · #7 05-24-2005, 08:36 PM

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I would check-call the river. But I had too many bad beats lately...

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Why does the river change anything?

Shillx · #8 05-24-2005, 08:37 PM

Odd handle. Very nice hand. If he has an overpair, he will go crazy on a lowball flop like. Welcome to the boards.

Brad

jrz1972 · #9 05-24-2005, 08:38 PM

Nice hand, though I would probably have folded PF.

Redd · #10 05-24-2005, 08:48 PM

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Ok. I was just worried that I was being too aggressive vs the raises by MP3, thinking he could have top set or the flush.

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This is something I do frequently - I still have bad habit of saying "Villain could be on a flush draw," and I raise. Or "he could have a monster," and I fold. One can really improve their game with what is IMO the most fundamental concept in poker: putting your opponent on a statistically-distributed range of hands based on combinatrics, prior play in the hand, and reads.

Could this guy could have raised 88 from MP3, or could he be a donk with two flukey clubs? Absolutely.

Without reads, does he have either of these hands a significant percentage of the time? I would say not.

Then can you bet/raise for value? IMO, yes.