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Old 05-23-2005, 07:51 AM
baronzeus baronzeus is offline
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Default QQ flop top set

CO is aggressive, Button is SLAP

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Preflop: Hero is BB with Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">6 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises</font>, Button calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, CO calls, Button calls.

Flop: (9.50 SB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises</font>, Button calls, Hero calls.

Turn: (7.75 BB) K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, CO calls, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises</font>, Hero calls, CO calls.
// Call here to hope for the board to pair?
River: (13.75 BB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
Hero checks, CO checks, <font color="#CC3333">Button bets</font>, Hero ??????
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Old 05-23-2005, 08:09 AM
billyjex billyjex is offline
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Default Re: QQ flop top set

you played this hand really weird.

just 3-bet the flop and get it on.
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Old 05-23-2005, 08:30 AM
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Default Re: QQ flop top set

Why did you slow down on the flop if you weren't gonna check raise the turn? [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]
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Old 05-23-2005, 08:34 AM
Petteri Petteri is offline
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Default Re: QQ flop top set

Absolutely 3-bet turn. Why did you slow down on 1 raise? Go ahead and make your opponents pay to draw you out.

Why did you not 3-bet flop?
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Old 05-23-2005, 08:47 AM
grtflone grtflone is offline
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Default Re: QQ flop top set

I think you need to 3 bet the flop.

Call the river.
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Old 05-23-2005, 09:56 AM
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Default Re: QQ flop top set

Working backwards:

River: What are your options? Fold? Get real. Raise? Your hand is strong enough that you don't mind an overcall, and weak enough that you could easily be behind. That leaves call. If it is 2 bets back to you, then you have a decision, but not here.

Turn: You are not seriously considering folding here?! Yes, IF you are behind, you have odds to draw, but most of the time you are not behind. 3-bet.

Flop: You have a guy who raised you and another guy who called the raise cold. They are not going anywhere (here or on the turn). You have the best hand and a good shot at it holding up to the end. The pot is big. 3-bet.

For what it is worth, I'd guess button has KJ or KT. CO is a bit of a mystery. AQ or AJ, maybe?
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Old 05-23-2005, 10:05 AM
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Default Re: QQ flop top set

I raise, reraise this turn; the flush card may slow me down but I at least call the river, maybe raise, especially with a SLAP happy betting.
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Old 05-23-2005, 10:44 AM
krishanleong krishanleong is offline
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Default Re: QQ flop top set

ugly stuff.

3-bet the flop. If you can't see this you are in serious trouble as a players. The 3rd player makes ALL the difference.

Since you didn't, you should cr the turn.

Since you didn't, you should 3-bet the turn when the other dude wakes up. His hand range is sufficiently wide that you are probably way ahead. It also looks like CO is drawing.

Calling the river is fine.

Krishan
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Old 05-23-2005, 11:37 AM
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Default Re: QQ flop top set

Reraise the turn.
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Old 05-23-2005, 01:44 PM
baronzeus baronzeus is offline
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Default Re: QQ flop top set

I actually thought button was drawing by the way he played this hand. And on the turn it looks like he HIT his draw. (either with T9 or AT)

PS: I meant to 3 bet the flop. Long story, I was 8 tabling, pushed the wrong button, w/e, that's why I came and bet the turn.
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