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Old 05-22-2005, 07:18 AM
WillMagic WillMagic is offline
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Checking the turn sucks. Middle pair is going to make up a significant part of villain's range here, and he's not going to bet 50% of the time with that hand after you three-bet.

And folding to a turn raise would be AWFUL. Like throw acid in my eyes so I go blind so I don't have to read the hh awful. You can't let people semi-bluff you this easily.

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Old 05-22-2005, 11:34 AM
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Is folding to a turnraise really awful?? Who's gonna bluffsemiraise you on turn when you raise UTG preflop,threbet the flop and lead the turn??

Bruisers done nothing but showing strenth ín this hand. I guess if you know for sure that villain is drunk and a complete maniac you could perhaps call down if he raise you on turn, otherwise i don't see many sane players raising the turn with worse than QQ, atleast not where i play.
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Old 05-22-2005, 11:58 AM
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Is folding to a turnraise really awful?? Who's gonna bluffsemiraise you on turn when you raise UTG preflop,threbet the flop and lead the turn??

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Good players.

Tricky players.

Players with vulnerable hands like JJ and 99-77 who figure that they are putting in two bets no matter what, so they raise the turn intending to check behind.

Oh yeah, and players with Ax of clubs and Ax of hearts.

Laying down sucks.

Will
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Old 05-22-2005, 01:11 PM
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I think he means c/r the turn instead of three betting hte flop. I think if he does three bet the flop then the turn lead would kind of automatically follow
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Old 05-22-2005, 03:04 PM
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I think he means c/r the turn instead of three betting hte flop. I think if he does three bet the flop then the turn lead would kind of automatically follow

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That does make more sense...but even so I definitely like the three-betting line better.

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