So what's the consensus on this river? (flush)

[davelin]

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Good thought. Going for overcalls on the river with the nuts is pretty useless IMO.

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What does it matter whether you have the nuts? There are times when going for overcalls with the nuts is right, and times when not going for overcalls with junk two pair is right.

The more important criterion is how you can extract the most money, right? In this situation raising is clear but not because you have the nuts. It's just how you can suck the most money.

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My bad, thought the Ace-suit was on the board. Okay, I'll say going for overcalls with a lock hand is a minority case. Going for overcalls sometimes nets you more money but more times it's about spreading out your risk than getting the most value. The nice thing about raising is that it opens the opportunity to get multiple bets in.

Eh, give me an example where going for overcalls with the nuts is right. I'll bet raising is a close decision and if it's a close decision, I'll go with the one that opens the betting again.