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Old 05-17-2005, 10:48 PM
Matt Ruff Matt Ruff is offline
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3. Could I beat him in weird versions of poker that neither of us ever played where the rules were not told to us until right before we started? Games like threes become wild if you have four hearts in your hand.

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Are there any odd poker variants -- like wild card games -- that you actually have experience with? Just curious.

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Old 05-18-2005, 12:05 AM
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3. Could I beat him in weird versions of poker that neither of us ever played where the rules were not told to us until right before we started? Games like threes become wild if you have four hearts in your hand.

I'd play a match like that where the games constantly changed and were made up by an unbiased third party. And to me, being the best at that is more important than being number one in games after much practice.


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So being better at goofy versions of poker that nobody plays is more important to you than being better than Daniel at the games that the vast majority of poker players play...LMAO.

I suppose you could beat Negreanu at Darts if the board kept moving around or Tiddlewinks with both eyes closed or whatever..



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Old 05-18-2005, 12:14 AM
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Yeah, that is what David was saying ... I want to be the champion of goofy games. [img]/images/graemlins/crazy.gif[/img]

Use your head for a minute to think why David might have said what he said?

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Old 05-18-2005, 02:51 AM
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David;

You already have our respect (or most of ours, anyway). I just don't understand why you don't either:

1. Stay above all of this, and just say that you aren't interested.
2. Admit that your forte is books and teaching, not High Limit Heads-Up Showdowns

You've been very successful doing what you do. Keep doing it. These sophomoric excuses and explanations are way below the image I, and many others, have of you.

You have used some really ridiculous reasons to explain your lack of interest, but this last one took the cake. Apparently, you would now like to play made-up poker???(assuming the location and odds are correct, I'm sure.)

In short, do your thing. You seem to do it well. Don't lose all the respect that you have earned by talking circles around something as stupid and juvenille as this.
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Old 05-18-2005, 03:21 AM
David Sklansky David Sklansky is offline
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"David;

You already have our respect (or most of ours, anyway). I just don't understand why you don't either:

1. Stay above all of this, and just say that you aren't interested.
2. Admit that your forte is books and teaching, not High Limit Heads-Up Showdowns"

I can't do that because I have made it very clear that in my opinion, you cannot be a great poker teacher without being a very very good player. If I just ignored Daniel's offer, (as players like Brunson Farha, Reese, Ivey etc appear to be doing, probably because tiny edges don't interest them), my readers might assume I feel significantly below him and would never think of playing him. So I felt it necessary to specify what odds I would take to give me the edge I needed. Or which games I felt I was enough of a favorite to need no odds. (Not just Hi Lo Regular or goofy games by the way.) The important thing to understand is that I felt I had to specify what matches I would play to seperate myself from the likes of Jones, Brier, McEvoy, Ciafone and even Cooke and Caro all of whom would be big underdogs to Daniel.

The comment about goofy games was simply to point out that I UNDERSTAND poker better than the few players who play a smidgeon better than me (I am playing and beating 300-600 everyday). And there is a reason for that which I won't spell out. I brought the subject up only to refute the morons out there (who I would gladly play head up even) who don't understand that the ability to understand poker extremely well (while playing it very slightly less well) should be more coveted than its converse.
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Old 05-18-2005, 03:43 AM
Malagant Malagant is offline
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Mr Sklansky wrote:

-snip- my readers might assume I feel significantly below him and would never think of playing him. So I felt it necessary to specify what odds I would take to give me the edge I needed. /snip

Right there is your problem, if you are as good of a pokerplayer as you think you are, you wouldnt need all this.

Either play 5 games or something of your choice for x-amount of money or simply let it go. Stop doing posts where you try get an edge here or and edge there. As I see it the rules are fairly simple, Mr Negrenau even lets you pick the games.

The only thing here thats could be seen as a "bother" to you, would be the fact that the games are being played at the Wynn, when you have business interests at another casino. (I believe you stated something to this effect in another thread, something about a new game you designed and they are testing at Bellagio)

Thats all there is to it, ofcourse if I were you (which I am sure you are glad I aint) I would have made the move first and granted Daniel the better odds only later to be basking in the glory of my 1 gazillion fans who are chanting my name victoriously over the crowded strip of Las Vegas.

Emperor Sklansky indeed.

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Old 05-18-2005, 04:00 AM
Vincent Lepore Vincent Lepore is offline
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I would play to seperate myself from the likes of Jones, Brier, McEvoy, Ciafone and even Cooke and Caro all of whom would be big underdogs to Daniel.


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I would take Brier over Negreanu in heads up limit Holdem.

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Old 05-18-2005, 04:10 AM
David Sklansky David Sklansky is offline
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"I would take Brier over Negreanu in heads up limit Holdem."

Vince

Are you saying that because he has recently done extensive game theoretic analysis of the head up game? He is a math major so it's possible. Otherwise Jim has little chance. I believe in fact that the best game for Daniel, if he is facing ring game pros who have little experience playing junkie hands, is in fact limit holdem.
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Old 05-18-2005, 04:21 AM
Vincent Lepore Vincent Lepore is offline
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If Jim Brier, at his age, has set his mind on obtaining a PHD in math you had best believe he is fully capable of learning the math of Heads-up holdem play to literaly beat the pants off of Negreanu. Heads-up holdem (limit) is a perfect medium (poker) for combinatorial anlaysis and game theory (two subjects dear to my heart of which I know nothing). You uderstate the power of mathematics in Heads-up play. Negreanu has no chance agianst you in most poker games and you know it! I love the "University of Alberta" comment. Nice touch. Not a prayer does the boy have. If I were wealthy I'd put you up in a heart beat!

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Old 05-18-2005, 04:34 AM
David Sklansky David Sklansky is offline
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Keep writing stuff like that and Daniel will soon challenge YOU, offering 10-1 like he did Gary Carson.
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