weird hand

[TStoneMBD]

i really dont think i can fold top 2 pair here. i think UTG will have a set more often than he has other hands, but i dont know him well enough. he could easily have many other hands like 67 or a smaller aces up. folding this here would be ridiculous.

i also dont think 3betting the turn is close. doesnt make sense. i lose an extra bet when behind to UTG and i eliminate the BB when hes drawing to 3 outs.


looking back, nate is right. i definitely should have folded this preflop. my policy from the sb is that once i complete, im not going to fold if the bb raises. obviously this is flawed, especially in situations like this. its habit for me to autocall this, but certainly wrong.

[albanat0r]

I disagree. Getting 5/1 odds with an ace preflop warrants a call, unless you can say with absolute certainty that BB has a big pair or big ace.

The flop you played fine.

The turn you should have reraised if you put BB on an ace. The pot is already decent enough to protect, and you gotta make him draw if he wants to hit his kicker, which he probably will at these limits with a high ace. As it turns out that wasn't the case, but that's what any thinking player would have him on. You also can't put UTG on a set enough to not put in another raise with top 2- I would have him on the same or lower two pair, a monster draw, or depending on how weak he plays preflop a big ace. You simply can't slow down on the turn with this many draws on the board when you are most likely ahead.

The river checkraise was great because you had intended on calling down the UTG bet, but after things played out differently you made a great read.

Under no circumstances would I have considered folding at any point in this hand.


Lee

[Lmn55d]

Nate, if the BB had a more normal PFR, say 10-20, would you fold as well?

[Victor]

i would cap the turn with the intention of putting only 1 bet in on the riv.

[Nate tha' Great]

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I disagree. Getting 5/1 odds with an ace preflop warrants a call, unless you can say with absolute certainty that BB has a big pair or big ace.

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The guy raises 1% of his hands. We're drawing to three outs at best out of position in a bad implied odds situation.

[Nate tha' Great]

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Nate, if the BB had a more normal PFR, say 10-20, would you fold as well?

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I'd probably call but wouldn't like it very much.

[SGS]

With this hand you have a lot of reverse implied odds to go with your hand. Flop comes 7 high as it did you may be up against an overpair. Flop comes A high you may be up against a bigger A. It will not be easy to get away from either of these situations and therefore I think this would be a tough hand to play out of position against a PF raiser. I think this makes it a fold.

SGS

[albanat0r]

You're right Nate, didn't see the 1% part.