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Old 05-10-2005, 02:43 AM
Dr. Strangelove Dr. Strangelove is offline
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Default Re: Corollary to the perennial \"Folding AA preflop\" question

I agree this is an extremely rare situation.
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Old 05-13-2005, 04:57 AM
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Default Re: Corollary to the perennial \"Folding AA preflop\" question



Actually I had a friend in a very similar situation. Except that he had JTs.

-John
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Old 05-13-2005, 11:18 AM
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Default Re: Corollary to the perennial \"Folding AA preflop\" question

How is this an easy call by anyone? Are we presuming that everyone is playing AA, KK or QQ in that spot? personally, i have never seen my opponents hole cards until they turn them over. we can be sure that at least 1 or 2 of them have a monster, but since we have so many callers there is a chance that someone else 77 or 66 or AK of hearts or 78 of diamonds thereby turning your 67 into a dead hand.

I dont have a poker calculator at work, but someone should try to figure the hand out if the players are holding the following hands:
Hand 1: 55
Hand 2: 10-10
Hand 3: 77
Hand 4: AA
Hand 5: AK hearts
Hand 6: QQ
Hand 7: 65 hearts


If there was a way to read your player to know that they all had AA, KK and QQ then its a good call, otherwise its a no brainer fold.
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Old 05-13-2005, 12:18 PM
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Default Re: Corollary to the perennial \"Folding AA preflop\" question

Well, let's see.

You stand to win 7x your money.

You have better than a 1 in 6 chance of winning.

You should call, every time, in a cash game.
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Old 05-13-2005, 12:28 PM
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Default Re: Corollary to the perennial \"Folding AA preflop\" question

id much rather have 56s than J10s.

half your straight outs are completely dead with J10.
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Old 05-13-2005, 12:59 PM
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Default Re: Corollary to the perennial \"Folding AA preflop\" question

If UTG is all-in and folded to me in BB with AA I think it's insta-call.

Five players all-in to me in the BB with two players yet to act I fold. If I understand the hand, I'm getting 4 1/2 to 1 pot odds to call. Even if I'm last to act and BB and UTG have both called I think it's -EV and I fold. There are not two cards that would justify my calling.
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Old 05-13-2005, 01:51 PM
LuvDemNutz LuvDemNutz is offline
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Default Re: Corollary to the perennial \"Folding AA preflop\" question

A very similar situation happened one time in a live game at a local card club I used to play at.

I think the hands were AK, AK, 99, 77 and 86s.

It was raised around and the guy with 86s tried to steal with a reraise which then set off the all-in fest.

The 77 flopped a set the AK's turned a straight and the 77 rivered a boat to take it down.

It was quite a scene.
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Old 05-13-2005, 03:51 PM
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Default Re: Corollary to the perennial \"Folding AA preflop\" question

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Of course, this would never happen in a live game.

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I've seen very similar situations in live games, on a fairly regular basis.

Although, more often I see a big raise preflop that's called in too many places, and a coordinated flop on the board resulting in the rest of the table moving in on the flop as the pot gets larger and larger.
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