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Old 05-11-2005, 10:59 PM
shoepolish shoepolish is offline
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Default giving up on the turn.. I\'m a quitter.

Here be the hand.
***** Hand History for Game 1839114483 *****
$10/$20 Hold'em - Sunday, April 03, 16:18:51 EDT 2005
Table Bahamas (Real Money)
Seat 6 is the button
Total number of players : 10
Seat 1: OFF_ON_67 ( $445 )
Seat 2: touch212 ( $217 )
Seat 3: chipchop81 ( $290 )
Seat 4: angelou ( $317 )
Seat 5: jmanwoodie ( $515.5 )
Seat 6: Monkey169 ( $540.5 )
Seat 7: Kunkles27 ( $712 )
Seat 8: mikam937 ( $500 )
Seat 9: UncleOmar ( $417.5 )
Seat 10: shabasito ( $418 )
Kunkles27 posts small blind [$5].
UncleOmar posts big blind [$10].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to UncleOmar [ 4 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] T [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ]
shabasito folds.
OFF_ON_67 calls [$10].
touch212 folds.
chipchop81 calls [$10].
angelou calls [$10].
jmanwoodie folds.
Monkey169 calls [$10].
Kunkles27 calls [$5].
UncleOmar checks.
** Dealing Flop ** [ 5 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 9 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 2 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ]
Kunkles27 checks.
UncleOmar checks.
OFF_ON_67 checks.
chipchop81 bets [$10].
angelou calls [$10].
Monkey169 calls [$10].
Kunkles27 calls [$10].
UncleOmar calls [$10].
OFF_ON_67 calls [$10].
** Dealing Turn ** [ 3 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ]
Kunkles27 checks.
UncleOmar checks.
OFF_ON_67 checks.
chipchop81 bets [$20].
angelou calls [$20].
Monkey169 calls [$20].
Kunkles27 raises [$40].
>You have options at Table 39798 Table!.
UncleOmar folds.
OFF_ON_67 folds.
chipchop81 calls [$20].
angelou calls [$20].
Monkey169 calls [$20].
** Dealing River ** [ 6 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ]
Kunkles27 bets [$20].
chipchop81 calls [$20].
angelou folds.
Monkey169 calls [$20].

Who has what? Am I drawing dead for hearts, am I drawing to a chop for the straight?
Should I have folded!?

Shoe
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Old 05-11-2005, 11:41 PM
shoepolish shoepolish is offline
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Default Re: giving up on the turn.. I\'m a quitter.

Bad fold? help me out!
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Old 05-11-2005, 11:46 PM
shmahappens shmahappens is offline
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Default Re: giving up on the turn.. I\'m a quitter.

2:13 with serious implied odds (as if that many people called his raise you have to know the table's rediculously loose by now) and a gutshot. Bad bad fold.
A higher flush draw is possible, straight is very doubtful, possible set for the turn raiser. But pot is much too big.
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Old 05-11-2005, 11:48 PM
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Default Re: giving up on the turn.. I\'m a quitter.

I think this is a call due to the dual draw, even if some of the time you will be up against a higher flush draw.

Assuming everyone calls you are getting 3.5:1 odds to call the turn (280:40).

That is nearly enough to call for the straight by itself. And since you won't always be up against 2 higher hearts, I think this is a definite call.
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