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Old 05-11-2005, 03:33 PM
veresov veresov is offline
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Default Re: Don\'t be fooled!! The Rake is ......

That is only because there is no alternative right now, but there will be. These analogies are so stupid! Here's my analogy:

Why do people pay much less for generic drugs than their commercial counterparts? Because they do the same thing and they want to save money!!

There is no rakefree site in the world! When one comes along, players will migrate if there is action and similar functions!! I know I will and so has every friend of mine who understands the rake.
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Old 05-11-2005, 03:35 PM
Synergistic Explosions Synergistic Explosions is offline
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Default Re: Don\'t be fooled!! The Rake is ......

Yes, I agree. Rake is definately a cancer on our online game. The devastating affects of rake wipe out tens of thousands of players that could be at least break even players who stick around. Instead, rake wipes out their bankroll and they dissapear.

Of course a fair and equitable fee needs to be charged by sites to make their income. It is up to us as players to gravitate toward sites that show a willingness to alter the present rake structure so prevalent amongst a majority of the sites.

Often, the lowering of rake takes the forms of regular reloads or bottomless reload bonuses. As players, we should gravitate toward these sites that make these offers now.

I know I have altered my original playing style to miminmize the amount of rake I pay a site. I believe I have done this well and pay a minimal rake in total each year now. I move between many different sites and poker networks to always make sure I'm playing on the freely offered bonuses and reloads, or sometimes for a specific promotion that has value to me greater than the rake I would pay.

In summation, rake is a scurge if you let it be a scurge. There are ways to minimize rake to make it insignificant. If you don't take measures to minimize what you pay in rake, your chances of failing and leaving online poker are dramaticaly higher than those who take the proper precautions.

Good luck and do what you need to do concerning rake.
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Old 05-11-2005, 03:36 PM
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Default Re: Don\'t be fooled!! The Rake is ......

You dummy! I make plenty of money at the 5-10 table, but I still hate paying out $2400 a month in rake fees!! How are you so stupid?? You must work for Party POker!! How can anyone with a freakin brain say that thery would rather pay 2400 then 50!!!! You dumbassss!!!
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Old 05-11-2005, 03:38 PM
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Default Re: Don\'t be fooled!! The Rake is ......

Finally someone who understands!! Thanks for the feedback. These others are morons who have no good argument why they would rather pay a rake then go to sites that offer no rakes!!
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Old 05-11-2005, 03:42 PM
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Default Re: Don\'t be fooled!! The Rake is ......

Predicted for capitalism, yet, it's happened for Socialism/Communism and rapidly approaching for the socialist-democrate situation you promote (short gov leash).
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Old 05-11-2005, 03:45 PM
Exsubmariner Exsubmariner is offline
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Default Re: Don\'t be fooled!! The Rake is ......

OMG. Angry has returned..... [img]/images/graemlins/shocked.gif[/img]
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Old 05-11-2005, 03:46 PM
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Oh my god, PartyPoker employee has returned!
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Old 05-11-2005, 03:49 PM
grimel grimel is offline
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Default Re: Don\'t be fooled!! The Rake is ......

Considering you are shilling for Dutch Boyd you calling anyone dummy is absurd.

How can I say I'd rather pay $2400 than $50? Well, I wouldn't be associated with Dutch Boyd. I can sleep at night knowing my $$ is still there. I don't have to worry about the site folding due to lack of funds ($50 is in no way enough per person to fund a site unless you have EVERY player online now and another group just as big added). I make a load more where I pay rake than I could at a Dutch Boyd site (math 101 any positive number is greater than 0).
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Old 05-11-2005, 03:49 PM
Exsubmariner Exsubmariner is offline
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Admit it, You're really Angry and you quit poker because you were too cheap to pay a little rake every month.
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Old 05-11-2005, 03:49 PM
Beach-Whale Beach-Whale is offline
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Default Re: Don\'t be fooled!! The Rake is ......

I agree with you, veresov. The fees they charge are unreasonable. Of course they charge whatever they can get away with, that's why we, in the long run, shouldn't let them get away with it. It's just that it's a market built on stupid customers, so it's hard to put any pressure on them by educating their customers. Price just isn't a factor in the competition between sites right now, except in bonuses and the affiliate market, with rakeback, but hopefully it will be more of a factor in the future.
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