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Ahhh wtf... everyones got a set or something!!!
What do you think people had here???
Party Poker 2/4 Hold'em (9 handed) converter Preflop: Hero is MP1 with A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG+1 calls, Hero calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP3 calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Button calls, SB completes, BB checks. Flop: (6 SB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(6 players)</font> SB checks, BB checks, UTG+1 checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP3 raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button 3-bets</font>, SB folds, BB folds, UTG+1 calls, Hero folds, MP3 calls. Turn: (8 BB) J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font> UTG+1 checks, MP3 checks, <font color="#CC3333">Button bets</font>, UTG+1 calls, MP3 folds. River: (10 BB) K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> UTG+1 checks, <font color="#CC3333">Button bets</font>, UTG+1 folds. Final Pot: 11 BB |
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Re: Ahhh wtf... everyones got a set or something!!!
Better than you, I would fold that flop as well. Could be 2pair or a set of 2s/9s.
Do you typically limp ATo in MP1 after 1 limper? (not that it's right or wrong) Personally this is raise/fold territory for me. |
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Re: Ahhh wtf... everyones got a set or something!!!
I think limping here preflop is pretty terrible, and it sure does make the flop play a lot easier. Once you limp preflop, any ace is now thinking his top pair is good, and I'd expect hands you're beating to 3-bet that flop. So now you're stuck in shitty no-mans land having to call two back on the flop possibly drawing dead or drawing to 3, or you're possibly still winning, but you've got no clue. I fold that flop if I limp, but I almost never limp ATo unless I'm in the blinds.
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Re: Ahhh wtf... everyones got a set or something!!!
Nothing, nice flop fold if you had no strong reads.
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Re: Ahhh wtf... everyones got a set or something!!!
I generally don't play ATo until later. I'd probably fold the flop like you did as well.
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Re: Ahhh wtf... everyones got a set or something!!!
Depending on a read on UTG+1 and the players behind, you definitely have to raise or fold this. I'm none too fond of ATo with lots of people in the pot, so if I have to play it, I'd really like to limit the field and try to isolate UTG+1. If the players behind are prone to cold-calling raises, I'd just muck without any regrets.
I think the hand would play out differently, but given that you limped, I would think I'm definitely behind in this spot. And while hero may or may not have hidden outs to two pair, it's hard to know what they are. I think folding when it's two-bets back to you is pretty easy. |
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Re: Ahhh wtf... everyones got a set or something!!!
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Do you typically limp ATo in MP1 after 1 limper? (not that it's right or wrong) [/ QUOTE ] No, it's wrong. |
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Re: Ahhh wtf... everyones got a set or something!!!
The real question here is WTF is UTG+1 drawing to that he didn't catch on the turn and/or river? The only thing I can think is maybe a backdoor spade draw which explains the check/call on the turn.
Either way i'd like to get that guys handle and add him to my buddy list [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] |
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Re: Ahhh wtf... everyones got a set or something!!!
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The real question here is WTF is UTG+1 drawing to that he didn't catch on the turn and/or river? The only thing I can think is maybe a backdoor spade draw which explains the check/call on the turn. Either way i'd like to get that guys handle and add him to my buddy list [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] [/ QUOTE ] 9 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 7 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img] [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img] Or some other random trash. Btw, this is why ATo is not a good limping hand. If you must play it from here, raise, it gets some of that trash outta there. |
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