Ivey/Moneymaker WSOP 2003 - Page 2

Pov · #11 05-09-2005, 03:06 PM

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I remember this hand vividly. It seemed clear that Ivey was in a bit of a daze and simply walked past MM. It did not appear to be a "slight" in any way, shape, or form. When players pointedly refuse to shake others' hands (Lederer/Tony G; Raymer/Matusow), it's quite obvious. In this case, it was equally obvious that no slight was intended.

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That was my read as well. Ivey did not "refuse" to shake his hand, he was crushed and simply trying to get out of there.

sdplayerb · #12 05-09-2005, 05:00 PM

yep, moneymaker bet very small at it. i believe less than half the pot.

ivey would have been top 4 in chips, and the favorite to win it.
it didn't appear to be a major snub.
that was also his second bad beat as he got allin after flopping a set earlier.
ivey should have ended up top 3 in that tourney.

KramerTM · #13 05-09-2005, 10:07 PM

Still makes me sick to watch that hand. I still can't believe there was no visible reaction whatsoever from Phil Ivey.

-Skeme- · #14 05-09-2005, 10:29 PM

He didn't snub him. He took the beat, stood up in a dazed and confused state, and walked off. He just bubbled from the final table in the biggest tournament there is on a huge suckout. I wouldn't be all smiles either. Actually, he handled that so well that it was mind boggling. He just stood up, accepted it, and walked off.

Dynasty · #15 05-09-2005, 10:33 PM

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He just bubbled from the final table in the biggest tournament there is on a huge suckout. I wouldn't be all smiles either.

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People who say Ivey was the victim of a huge suckout are amusing. He was only about a 6:1 favorite. One card earlier, Ivey was about a 14:1 underdog.

Yes · #16 05-09-2005, 10:34 PM

just for the record, i would've done exactly what Ivey did...and i wouldve been proud of myself..because my second most likely response would have been to choke mm and go on a nationally televised table flipping rampage.

-Skeme- · #17 05-09-2005, 10:37 PM

People who can't differentiate the strong difference between a normal bet and an all in situation are also amusing. You don't judge a suckout by it's earlier streets, you judge what happens AFTER all of the money goes in. I'm not saying MM did anything wrong, I'm saying it's horrendously crappy for Phil Ivey.

Yes · #18 05-09-2005, 10:37 PM

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He just bubbled from the final table in the biggest tournament there is on a huge suckout. I wouldn't be all smiles either.

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People who say Ivey was the victim of a huge suckout are amusing. He was only about a 6:1 favorite. One card earlier, Ivey was about a 14:1 underdog.

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Whatever dude..That [censored] sucked to be phil ivey, especially after the way he got knocked out of 2002 wsop

radek2166 · #19 05-09-2005, 10:59 PM

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Phil I. by most accounts acts like a gentleman.

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I have heard that around vegas from many dealers.

goofball · #20 05-09-2005, 11:37 PM

What happened earlier isn't very important. When the money went in he was a 6-1 favorite. He was also better than 10-1 against Freddy Deeb when the money went in and lost.