Was this a fishy call??

crazygoose · #1 05-08-2005, 06:31 PM

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (10 handed) converter

MP3 ($77.85)
CO ($50)
Button ($34.15)
SB ($54.1)
BB ($44.05)
UTG ($37.5)
UTG+1 ($80.05)
UTG+2 ($42.05)
Hero ($107.75)
MP2 ($29.52)

Preflop: Hero is MP1 with A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $0.25.
1 fold, UTG+1 calls $0.50, UTG+2 calls $0.50, Hero raises to $3, 3 folds, Button calls $3, 2 folds, UTG+1 calls $2.50, UTG+2 folds.

Flop: ($10.25) J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (3 players)
UTG+1 checks, Hero bets $10, UTG+1 folds, Hero calls $21.15.

Turn: ($41.40) J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)

River: ($41.40) A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)

Final Pot: $41.40

kurto · #2 05-08-2005, 06:39 PM

can't say without knowing something about your opponent.

Good player... then your call is fishy.

Fishy Player... then your call is 50/50

kurto · #3 05-08-2005, 06:51 PM

I'm leaning towards it being a bad call UNLESS the opponent is a maniac.

If its a good player... he either has a set or a monster draw.

Its its a fish... he probably has 2 pair.

If its a maniac... I'd call.

AKQJ10 · #4 05-08-2005, 08:41 PM

It could be because I'm not hanging out on these hand history threads enough, but what on earth does this mean?

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Flop: ($10.25) J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (3 players)
UTG+1 checks, Hero bets $10, UTG+1 folds, Hero calls $21.15.

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Does that mean there was another opponent in the hand who raised $11.15 from $10 to $21.15, and you called? (But even that action doesn't explain the pot size. And someone apparently it was heads-up all-in, with no action on the turn and river.) And is it the flop call you're asking about, since I don't see another one?

Sorry in advance if I'm making some newbie mistake here.... just point me to the FAQ on this and I'll go my way.

TheWorstPlayer · #5 05-08-2005, 08:55 PM

I've seen plenty of HHs and also have no idea what happened in this hand so don't feel bad! OP can you explain what the flop action really was?

Tboner7 · #6 05-08-2005, 10:11 PM

Looks like Button was left out of the flop

TheWorstPlayer · #7 05-08-2005, 10:18 PM

So the BN was the one who pushed? I think that makes it closer, because he is more likely to have a set, but I still think it's a call.

Raydain · #8 05-09-2005, 12:15 AM

I would say this is an easy call. You can't play such scared poker if you want to win, especially against short stacks. You're getting about 2-1 with TPTK with the only hands you would be worried about is K-J or a set. I would call without thinking twice.

Raydain · #9 05-09-2005, 12:18 AM

How can you talk about folding this hand? This is one of those examples on how weak-tight you guys can play sometimes.

People make moves, don't just play the nuts.

creedofhubris · #10 05-09-2005, 12:33 AM

Dude, you can't even think about folding this, the all-in raise is too small, and you're closing the action; you won't be facing any more bets on turn or river.

I would seriously think about calling this with QQ/AJ as well as AK, even though I know I'm losing a lot of the time. You are putting in 11 to win 30, so you only need to win a little over 1/3 of the time to make money here.