2 cold on the river with underpair?

[KdoubleK]

B&M 20-40, I raise from MP1 with JJ. MP2 calls, SB folds, BB calls. MP2 is loose passive before the flop then becomes laggy afterward. Not much of a read on BB, but two hands prior she proudly waved a bluff to the whole table. She checks dark. I bet dark. Flop comes Q [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]9 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]3 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. MP2 autoraises and BB calls. I consider 3 betting but I hate BB's call so I call. Turn is K [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. Check to MP2 who bets, call, call. MP2 says, "what are you guys waiting to get?" River is 3 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]. Check, check, bet, BB says "hmmmm" then raises. 12.5 BB in pot. Thoughts on all streets appreciated.

[Klepton]

fold the turn

dont bet dark

[NLSoldier]

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fold the turn

dont bet dark

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Better yet, bet dark and then lead out again on the turn when the king hits since dark bet always=AK [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

[KdoubleK]

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fold the turn

dont bet dark


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Ok, I don't know what came over me with the dark bet...I wanted to try something different I guess. But since I took that line I didn't think I could fold the turn because I have no reason to think MP2 has me beat and I still have the correct odds to draw even if BB has the K or Q (though I suspect she has something more like AJ or A10). Her raise on the river makes me reconsider that, but I'm still not entirely sure.

[steveyz]

If you want to continue with this hand, 3-bet the flop. Otherwise fold the flop or the turn.

[mojolang]

I like what stevey said. On the turn you really aren't beating much, particularly against 2 opponents. 9T and J9 are among the only hands you are beating. JT fot there, and even in the very slight chance you are ahead, there is that possible redraw.

Peace,

Joe

[shmahappens]

I read the title alone and said 'NO'.

[KdoubleK]

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If you want to continue with this hand, 3-bet the flop. Otherwise fold the flop or the turn.

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Agreed. I started the hand off aggressive then shriveled into a weak tight shell. On the river I folded to the 2 big bets and BB turned over 10 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]8 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] for an almost completely hopeless bluff and MP2 turned over A [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]9 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (which is about what I put him on). If BB hadn't called 2 cold on the flop, or if I'd noticed her tag identified her as a dealer and not a prop like I assumed she was, I 3-bet without hesitation. But since I didn't I thought I could check call to the river and have the best hand often enough to make it +EV. Whoops [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img].