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When is it a Big Pot?
I am curious when you guy feel it is a “Big Pot” Flop =10 SB ? Turn =15 SB ? River=10 BB ? |
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Re: When is it a Big Pot?
relative. see SSH for more explanations of "general" conditions that make for a "large pot".
but basically, the flop starts the decision if it is a "big pot". from there, things change according to many factors IMHO...and, yes, i'd consider either of the examples you gave as "large pots" [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img] |
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Re: When is it a Big Pot?
What I think of as a big pot...
Raised pot with 4 callers (8SB) Three bet pot with 3 callers (9SB) |
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Re: When is it a Big Pot?
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What I think of as a big pot... Raised pot with 4 callers (8SB) Three bet pot with 3 callers (9SB) [/ QUOTE ] i remember 1 from SSH was 6 handed in an unraised pot |
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Re: When is it a Big Pot?
I think it's good to get out of thinking about things in terms of "big pots" versus "small" and "medium" pots.
Here is what matters: the quality of your hand, the size of the bet you make or call, and the number of bets in the pot. All this together guides action. Pot size is contextual. I think instead of asking "at what point is a pot big?" it is more prudent to ask, "in this situation, at what point is the pot big enough?" That might seem like splitting hairs, but I think i'ts an important distinction. |
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Re: When is it a Big Pot?
I am sure others have their own usages for the term, but here's my general breakdown:
Small pot: I don't have the odds to play a flush draw Normal pot: Flush and OESDs play for one bet, sometimes have to fold to 2 bets Big pot: Gutshots have odds to stay Really big pot: 2-outers like pocket underpairs and backdoor nut flush draws have odds to stay. So, I guess for me, big means 10 SB in before the flop, and really big is around 20. If you're asking "what feels big when it's finally pushed to you at the end?"... that "wow!" feeling comes in somewhere between 15 and 20 big bets. |
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Re: When is it a Big Pot?
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I am sure others have their own usages for the term, but here's my general breakdown: Small pot: I don't have the odds to play a flush draw Normal pot: Flush and OESDs play for one bet, sometimes have to fold to 2 bets Big pot: Gutshots have odds to stay Really big pot: 2-outers like pocket underpairs and backdoor nut flush draws have odds to stay. So, I guess for me, big means 10 SB in before the flop, and really big is around 20. If you're asking "what feels big when it's finally pushed to you at the end?"... that "wow!" feeling comes in somewhere between 15 and 20 big bets. [/ QUOTE ] I really don't know that this is a helpful way to think about pot size. It's a sliding scale for what should be a dichotomous concept: the pot is either "big enough" or it's not. |
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Re: When is it a Big Pot?
A big pot is listed as 6-handed or more PF
It is raised PF and 4 handed It is 3-bet or more PF At least 2 of your opponents will go with you to the river. |
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Re: When is it a Big Pot?
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A big pot is listed as 6-handed or more PF It is raised PF and 4 handed It is 3-bet or more PF At least 2 of your opponents will go with you to the river. [/ QUOTE ] It's true, SSH is a good starting point. |
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Re: When is it a Big Pot?
Frankly, I don't really think in terms of small, medium, or big pots. I think about actual bets in the pot, and how likely I am to win it, and whether it is worth taking the risk to do so. For example, if the pot is 10SB with only 3 players and I have position with 2 overs, I will definitely think this pot is worth winning and play aggressively.
On the other hand, with 8 SB in the pot with 8 people and I'm holding 2 overs, I'm much more likely to let this go, since against this field, winning is less likely. The 2 SB difference is pretty insignificant, I think it strongly depends on the likelihood that you win the pot and what it might cost you to do so (basically, if in the long run, it is worth it). |
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