KTs BB

[sthief09]

he doesn't need to fold often

[Nick C]

I think the river bet is worth a try, although I expect UTG to call, and, like Private Joker, I worry that there's a scared ace out there (and, also, if someone just made a straight or two pair, that would be unfortunate). But there's a good chance no one acting behind UTG has you beat, and in fact if you can get past UTG, you may pick up a bet or two from worse hands (such as Q4s and J8o and 33).

Anyway, when I was reading this hand, the turn blank was at the bottom of the screen at first, and when I got to that point, I thought, "Wait a minute? How did CDC manage to get to the river?" But then I scrolled down, saw the four consecutive checks, and remembered that this hand took place at a B&M table.

[cnfuzzd]

right or wrong, i play it the same.

peace

john nickle

[SA125]

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someone with an A would probably bet the turn when it's checked to them.

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Not the Any Ace loving weak tighties who love to call but not bet.

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the pot is clearly big enough that it's worth a shot

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Definitely. You're probably toast, but it's the river. Why not?

[Fnord]

Just out of random results-oriented interest, how did this end up?

[PokerBob]

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6/12

a tight/decent playing kid limps UTG. D1, D2, D3, D4 call (who all play pretty terribly). SB calls. I raise in the bb with K [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]T [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]. UTG now 3-bets. D1 folds. D2, D3, D4 call again. SB now folds. I call. 5 to the flop for 17 small ones.

Flop: A [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]8 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]9 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]

I check. UTG bets. D2 calls. D3 folds. D4 calls. I call. 4 to the turn for 10.5 big ones.

Turn: 4 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]

Check. Check. Check. Check.

River: T [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]

I bet.

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You are beat here. Assuming your read is correct, UTG has a big pair and although the jackasses behind him may scare him, ain't folding in this massive pot. Me no likey.

[jskills]

Why do we raise preflop here?

[PokerBob]

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someone with an A would probably bet the turn when it's checked to them. the pot is clearly big enough that it's worth a shot

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Don't these 2 statements contradict each other somewhat? Someone with an A likely would have bet the turn. Villain must know this AND the pot is large, so is not his call here mandatory, since he now has no real reason to fear the overcallers?

[Hoi Polloi]

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You are beat here. Assuming your read is correct, UTG has a big pair and although the jackasses behind him may scare him, ain't folding in this massive pot. Me no likey.

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I agree. What does UTG limp/rr with that does not have you by the cojones? 99? KQs? These seem unlikely compared to Group A holdings all of which beat you.

Plus the guy with the weak Ace.

[JoeyJoJo Shabadu]

I've limp-raised with AA many times before... I hate betting out AA and seeing everyone fold. At least that way I get much more in the pot.