AA Turn Decision

Jazza · #1 05-03-2005, 08:40 AM

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (7 handed) converter

saw flop|saw showdown

MP2 ($94)
Hero ($100)
Button ($136.25)
SB ($110.5)
BB ($91.8)
UTG ($96.35)
MP1 ($92.5)

Preflop: Hero is CO with A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. Hero posts a blind of $1. SB posts a blind of $0.5.
3 folds, Hero (poster) raises to $2, Button calls $3, 1 fold, BB calls $2.

Flop: ($9.50) 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (3 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $6, Button calls $6, BB folds.

Turn: ($21.50) 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero bets $15, Button raises to $45, Hero ??

I feel like a total n00b for not knowing what to do here

this is my first hand at the table, but i have some stats on villian: 23/6 over 187 hands, seems pretty average

warlockjd · #2 05-03-2005, 09:14 AM

Raise to $5 preflop.

I can't see you beating a lot of the hands that he's raising here, KQ, 77 being the usual suspects.

Could be a pair and a heart draw tho.

I say muck, but watch every pot villain is in and take a lot of notes so you will know what to do on him next time.

Jazza · #3 05-03-2005, 09:23 AM

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Raise to $5 preflop.

I can't see you beating a lot of the hands that he's raising here, KQ, 77 being the usual suspects.

Could be a pair and a heart draw tho.

I say muck, but watch every pot villain is in and take a lot of notes so you will know what to do on him next time.

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what's wrong with a 3 BB raise?

warlockjd · #4 05-03-2005, 09:57 AM

Because AA prefers to play heads up and raising only 3 BB may bring in the button and both blinds.

This will put you in a lot more tougher situations postflop, and makes a lot more flops scary and a lot more turn cards scare cards.

Jazza · #5 05-03-2005, 11:09 AM

i see what you mean, but short-handed i still think 3BB is a fine raise, in my experience a 3BB raise here doesn't get called by 2 people very often

warlockjd · #6 05-03-2005, 11:14 AM

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i see what you mean, but short-handed i still think 3BB is a fine raise, in my experience a 3BB raise here doesn't get called by 2 people very often

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Okay. How about getting th most value that you can out of the best starting hand, and maximize it's chances of winning the optimally sized pot?

Jazza · #7 05-03-2005, 11:20 AM

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i see what you mean, but short-handed i still think 3BB is a fine raise, in my experience a 3BB raise here doesn't get called by 2 people very often

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Okay. How about getting th most value that you can out of the best starting hand, and maximize it's chances of winning the optimally sized pot?

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i like to keep my preflop raising fixed so people can't read me from my bet sizes

BuddahShark · #8 05-03-2005, 12:28 PM

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i see what you mean, but short-handed i still think 3BB is a fine raise, in my experience a 3BB raise here doesn't get called by 2 people very often

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Maybe 3bb is optimal with AA if this is a very tight game, if so, you need to get out of that game. At least 4bb is pretty standard with premium holdings in your position IMO anyway. Good luck.

warlockjd · #9 05-03-2005, 12:35 PM

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i like to keep my preflop raising fixed so people can't read me from my bet sizes

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Fair enough, but I really reccommend making 5 BB your standard raise.

Another option, which appears to opponents to randomize your raise sizes (and achieves the same unreadableness):

Make your standard raise 4 BB, but always add an extra BB for each limper already in.

So sometimes you will open rz to 4 BB with AA on the button, and sometimes, with 4 limpers you will open rz to 8BB on the button with JJ.