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Old 04-29-2005, 12:24 AM
tiger7210 tiger7210 is offline
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Default JJ\'s in the hole....Do I call here?.....please help

Villain had been very aggressive seeing a lot of flops and betting his hands hard. I recently broke him for a lot of chips trapping him with Aces before he went on a serious rush to get his stack where it is now.

2 orbits earlier he repopped me when I opened with 55's and i layed it down PF to his 3x reraise.

What's your line here PF and on the flop?





Hand #5669005-150 at Thu10pmA-001 (No Limit tournament Hold'em)
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Started at 29/Apr/05 00:06:12

JPV is at seat 0 with 8365.
tiger7210 is at seat 1 with 9500.
Ole1975 is at seat 2 with 4975.
craiggers64 is at seat 3 with 1440.
any2cards is at seat 4 with 5285.
checkitonce is at seat 6 with 13790.
STITCH626 is at seat 7 with 15825.
Trippertx is at seat 8 with 9615.
nwtoolman is at seat 9 with 0 (sitting out).
The button is at seat 1.

JPV posts ante (25).
tiger7210 posts ante (25).
Ole1975 posts ante (25).
craiggers64 posts ante (25).
any2cards posts ante (25).
checkitonce posts ante (25).
STITCH626 posts ante (25).
Trippertx posts ante (25).
craiggers64 posts the small blind of 150.
any2cards posts the big blind of 300.

JPV: -- --
tiger7210: Jh Jd
Ole1975: -- --
craiggers64: -- --
any2cards: -- --
checkitonce: -- --
STITCH626: -- --
Trippertx: -- --

Pre-flop:

checkitonce folds. STITCH626 calls. Trippertx
folds. JPV folds. tiger7210 raises to 875.
Ole1975 folds. craiggers64 folds. any2cards folds.
STITCH626 calls.

Flop (board: Qc Qd 5d):

STITCH626 checks. tiger7210 bets 2400. STITCH626
goes all-in for 14925
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Old 04-29-2005, 12:43 AM
slamdunkpro slamdunkpro is offline
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Default Re: JJ\'s in the hole....Do I call here?.....please help

Pre-flop I think the raise is too small - I'd go at least 1200 (4x bb) Maybe 1600 (2x pot)- with Jacks I want to drive people out.

Post flop is an easy fold. He's either got a Queen or is on a flush draw. I would not risk my tournament here to defend a bet that is less than 10% of my stack.
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Old 04-29-2005, 12:45 AM
slamdunkpro slamdunkpro is offline
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Default Re: JJ\'s in the hole....Do I call here?.....please help

Sorry I missed the hero's 2400 bet post flop. I'd still fold but I'd have checked after the flop or made a smaller information bet with an overpair on the board.
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Old 04-29-2005, 12:49 AM
tiger7210 tiger7210 is offline
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Default Re: JJ\'s in the hole....Do I call here?.....please help

I'm an idiot. The blinds just went up this hand and i didn't realize it until you just made mention of my raise.

When I calculated my raise it was based off of 100/200 Blinds.

Sometimes i hate UB because I never know what's already in the pot when it gets to me wihout having to add everything up.
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Old 04-29-2005, 12:49 AM
Lurshy Lurshy is offline
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Default Re: JJ\'s in the hole....Do I call here?.....please help

Ouch, isn't NL fun!

Sorry, but both lines hurt (call and lose, fold and burn). Fold much safer. Calling you can easily be behind, or fall behind on turn and river.

And checking behind would just postpone the decision. As he would push the turn.

I think I fold this.
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Old 04-29-2005, 01:16 AM
tiger7210 tiger7210 is offline
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Default Re: JJ\'s in the hole....Do I call here?.....please help

If you have let's say KK's or AA's here is your decision any different?

One thing I used to consider in making a decision is his aggressiveness to get me to lay down previously as well as calling an all in reraise with A3o on a 973 board where it was for a big chunk of his stack.

He proceeded to suckout there with runner runner for the flush.
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Old 04-29-2005, 02:55 AM
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Default Re: JJ\'s in the hole....Do I call here?.....please help

I seem to lose on Jacks more than any other hand.

Less a really solid read, I'm folding here.
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