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Old 04-28-2005, 06:03 AM
ode ode is offline
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Default KJo, i like the half of it...

Party Poker 2/4 Hold'em (10 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is CO with K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, MP2 calls, MP3 calls, Hero calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, SB completes, BB checks.

Flop: (5 SB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font>
SB checks, BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 bets</font>, MP3 calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, SB calls, BB folds, MP2 calls, MP3 calls.

Turn: (6.50 BB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 bets</font>, MP3 calls, Hero calls, SB calls.

River: (10.50 BB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 bets</font>, MP3 calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB 3-bets</font>, MP2 folds, MP3 folds, <font color="#CC3333">Hero caps</font>, SB calls.

Final Pot: 20.50 BB


I like myself on the flop and the river.
Pre-flop and turn... not so much.


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Old 04-28-2005, 06:08 AM
pfkaok pfkaok is offline
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Default Re: KJo, i like the half of it...

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I like myself on the flop and the river.
Pre-flop and turn... not so much

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yeah, raising PF would probaly be best, but what can you do on the turn other than call to try and hit your draw?
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Old 04-28-2005, 06:26 AM
wrto4556 wrto4556 is offline
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Default Re: KJo, i like the half of it...

And why raise this flop? I would rather have customers than clean up outs. The pot is small.

raise preflop.

Turn and river look good.
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Old 04-28-2005, 06:27 AM
Nick Royale Nick Royale is offline
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Default Re: KJo, i like the half of it...

Raise preflop.
Ok flop play.
What do you think you should do instead of calling the turn?
Nice river...
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Old 04-28-2005, 06:36 AM
Nick Royale Nick Royale is offline
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Default Re: KJo, i like the half of it...

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And why raise this flop? I would rather have customers than clean up outs. The pot is small.

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Calling is a good option, but I'm pretty sure we can raise this, not to clean outs but because of our equity.

3 outs for the nuts and 1 out for Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] discounted sligtly for the flush potential.
4 outs for a 1 card straight, discounted to 3 for the risk of splitting and 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] puts 3 to a flush.
3 outs for a K, discounted to ~1.5.

Total ~8.5 outs and ~33% equity. We have to players in the pot and might get even more caller. With the chance of them giving us a free card on the turn I don't dislike raising here. Plus it might buy outs.
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Old 04-28-2005, 06:56 AM
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Default Re: KJo, i like the half of it...

Mmmh.

Thinking about it, I like myself on the turn too.
Just don't like that card or getting bet into.

[img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

Bet preflop would've been in place...

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Old 04-28-2005, 07:08 AM
Chris Daddy Cool Chris Daddy Cool is offline
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Default Re: KJo, i like the half of it...

this hand is played fine actually
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Old 04-28-2005, 07:11 AM
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Default Re: KJo, i like the half of it...

No problem with the hand - I call with KJ - it's not THAT strong of a hand to raise unless your 1st to act. THEN raise. KJo can be dominated pretty easly.
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Old 04-28-2005, 07:37 AM
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Default Re: KJo, i like the half of it...

I'd raise the flop -- to try and get it 3 handed. Everything else looks perfect. Simple hand played well. Dont change how you play this turn.
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Old 04-28-2005, 08:48 AM
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Default Re: KJo, i like the half of it...

Preflop was a good call. If suited possible raise but I like calling KJ. The raise on the flop was good. I could of gotten you a free card and eliminated a player or two. It didn't but now you are close on outs to call the turn. The hearts are no good and I would devalue the 7's giving the possiblilty of QJ.If you hit your K alone it is likely to already be beat due to MP2 leading after you raised the flop. You can't be beat on the river but you have a big chance to split the pot. The numbers don't add up on the turn.
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