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Old 04-26-2005, 02:50 AM
Balla2hot4u Balla2hot4u is offline
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Default I need help!!

I desperately need help with my betting to protect a hand and to gain value in a pot to get paid off when i win.. i feel i am betting too much at the end and no one calls when i want.. or i then find myself checking when i know i have the hand won and want to re raise or at least get some extra $$ in there to win and everyone checks too. please view the following hand and give me some pointers thanks..
-Adam

Hand #5587290-1556 at Winnipeg (No Limit Hold'em)
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Started at 26/Apr/05 02:32:41

Swizard33 is at seat 0 with $11.55.
mean_jean is at seat 1 with $46.
robdagr8 is at seat 2 with $21.40.
blindxjustice is at seat 3 with $21.60.
Iceman3415 is at seat 4 with $14.10.
balla2hot4u is at seat 5 with $20.25.
jaxonj is at seat 6 with $17.10.
kitaen is at seat 8 with $8.25.
The button is at seat 2.

blindxjustice posts the small blind of $.10.
Iceman3415 posts the big blind of $.25.

Swizard33: -- --
mean_jean: -- --
robdagr8: -- --
blindxjustice: -- --
Iceman3415: -- --
balla2hot4u: 9 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 9 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
jaxonj: -- --
kitaen: -- --

Pre-flop:

balla2hot4u raises to $.50. jaxonj calls. kitaen
folds. Swizard33 folds. mean_jean calls. robdagr8
folds. blindxjustice calls. Iceman3415 calls.

Flop (board: 4 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 6 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 4 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]):

blindxjustice checks. Iceman3415 checks.
balla2hot4u bets $1. jaxonj calls. mean_jean calls.
blindxjustice folds. Iceman3415 folds.

Turn (board: 4 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 6 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 4 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 3 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]):

balla2hot4u checks. jaxonj checks. mean_jean
checks.

River (board: 4 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 6 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 4 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 3 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 9 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]):

balla2hot4u bets $5.50. jaxonj folds. mean_jean
folds, showing Td Ts. balla2hot4u is returned $5.50
(uncalled).

balla2hot4u opts to show 9s 9c.
balla2hot4u has 9s 9c 4c 4h 9d: full house, nines full of fours.


Hand #5587290-1556 Summary:

$.25 is raked from a pot of $5.50.
balla2hot4u wins $5.25.
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Old 04-26-2005, 03:09 AM
Balla2hot4u Balla2hot4u is offline
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Default Re: I need help!!

another hand i played poorly and got sucked out on the river.. please help me with my betting!

Hand #5587290-1581 at Winnipeg (No Limit Hold'em)
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Started at 26/Apr/05 03:06:35

Swizard33 is at seat 0 with $5.
mean_jean is at seat 1 with $45.90.
Janos831 is at seat 2 with $9.15.
the roast is at seat 3 with $9.55.
ark623 is at seat 4 with $10.
balla2hot4u is at seat 5 with $24.10.
jaxonj is at seat 6 with $17.
sirshowme is at seat 7 with $19.45.
rilligan is at seat 8 with $17.35.
Antanini13 is at seat 9 with $4.85.
The button is at seat 2.

the roast posts the small blind of $.10.
ark623 posts the big blind of $.25.

Swizard33: -- --
mean_jean: -- --
Janos831: -- --
the roast: -- --
ark623: -- --
balla2hot4u: Ah Qs
jaxonj: -- --
sirshowme: -- --
rilligan: -- --
Antanini13: -- --

Pre-flop:

balla2hot4u raises to $.50. jaxonj folds. sirshowme
folds. rilligan folds. Antanini13 folds.
Swizard33 folds. mean_jean folds. Janos831 calls.
the roast folds. ark623 calls.

Flop (board: Ac 6s Qc):

ark623 checks. balla2hot4u checks. Janos831 checks.


Turn (board: Ac 6s Qc Tc):

ark623 bets $1.60. balla2hot4u calls. Janos831
calls.

River (board: Ac 6s Qc Tc Ts):

ark623 checks. balla2hot4u checks. Janos831 checks.




Showdown:

ark623 shows 7d Ad.
ark623 has Ad Ac Qc Tc Ts: two pair, aces and tens.
balla2hot4u shows Ah Qs.
balla2hot4u has Ah Qs Ac Qc Tc: two pair, aces and queens.
Janos831 shows Kd Jc.
Janos831 has Kd Jc Ac Qc Tc: straight, ace high.


Hand #5587290-1581 Summary:

$.30 is raked from a pot of $6.40.
Janos831 wins $6.10 with straight, ace high.
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Old 04-26-2005, 04:45 AM
Jacob_Gilliam Jacob_Gilliam is offline
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Default Re: I need help!!

On the first hand theres no way really that youre going to win a huge pot so you should try to take it on the flop. Make a pot sized bet and see what happens.

The second hand is not a slowplaying hand. Unless you are sure someone is going to bet you have to try and win this right here. By slowplaying youre trying to help someone make second best while you're still best, but if someone improves here they will likely pass you by. Since you cant build the pot try to win it (pot sized bet) and if a straight or flush draw calls you so be it.
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Old 04-26-2005, 05:05 AM
Ojo_Rojo Ojo_Rojo is offline
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Default Re: I need help!!

I agree with the other poster. On the second hand, checking on the flop when you raised preflop, and hit the flop hard, is very cheesy. Especially when theres a flush and straight draw out there.

Get value from the draws, weaker aces, and A6s, while youve still got the best hand.

Ojo_Rojo
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Old 04-26-2005, 05:27 PM
Balla2hot4u Balla2hot4u is offline
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Default Re: I need help!!

thank you i will work on these.. after this last hand i got AA and raised.. was reraised then raised again in front of me.. was very happy as i reraised again.. then the other 2 went all in so i called.. kk and 77.. nothing hit for anyone and i took down 30$.. sweet thanks again
-Adam
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Old 04-26-2005, 05:44 PM
blackize blackize is offline
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Default Re: I need help!!

That first hand you bet 1 dollar into an almost 3 dollar pot. I think you need to bet between 2/3s and the full pot on the flop. You checked the turn for some reason where you should have bet big again. On the river you bet an amount that will almost never be called. So basically bet bigger on the flop and bet the turn. You bet about the right amount on the river, but given your actions on the flop and turn it seems like you either have a monster now or are trying to steal. You are better off with pot sized bets the whole way so it doesnt seem fishy when you finally bet big on the river.
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Old 04-26-2005, 06:12 PM
Zeatrix Zeatrix is offline
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Default Re: I need help!!

First of all I don't like your limit style raise preflop. Make it at least 3xBB to go.

Second of all, on the flop, you should worry about someone having a 4 (since your weak raise preflop people are gonna call with mediocre hands, as weak as 45s at these low limits) so you should bet the pot. Just stick it in, if someone calls or raise here you should slow down a little.
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