Ace rag

TheWorstPlayer · #1 04-26-2005, 05:59 AM

I kinda thought this was WA/WB, but now I'm thinking that either I should have just folded if I thought I was WB or raised, because with this many people in the pot there is no such thing as WA. There are a lot of outs against me if I am ahead, right?

MP2 is very LP and terrible
BN is very LAG and terrible

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Preflop: Hero is CO with 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
2 folds, MP2 calls, Hero raises, Button calls, SB calls, BB calls, MP2 calls.

Flop: (10 SB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (5 players)
SB bets, BB folds, MP2 raises, Hero calls, Button calls, SB calls.

Turn: (9 BB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (4 players)
SB checks, MP2 bets, Hero calls, Button calls, SB folds.

River: (12 BB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (3 players)
MP2 bets, Hero calls, Button raises, MP2 3-bets, Hero folds

milesdyson · #2 04-26-2005, 06:12 AM

Don't isolate with that with a lag right behind you. You have a good hand compared to MP2's, but I bet those blinds are loose too, and you don't really want to get into a fight with A5o 4-5 handed with a lag in the mix.

I also don't like MP2 raising on the flop. You have to choose on the flop whether to fold or raise. I'm not sure what "very LP and terrible" means, but if he's very passive, you could be drawing really thin when he raises into you.

TheWorstPlayer · #3 04-26-2005, 06:21 AM

So limp or fold preflop?

Elbie · #4 04-26-2005, 06:24 AM

I would have folded preflop and folded to the flop raise.

Opponents may both be terrible but A rag is nothing I limp with preflop. Possibly you could raise but that is all depending on your read of the blinds. I would have folded.

On the flop a loose passive raises and no way would I call 2-cold here.

Jacob_Gilliam · #5 04-26-2005, 06:28 AM

Fold preflop
You can only raise here if the blinds are tight and you can play this hand heads up.
Never limp with A5o.

milesdyson · #6 04-26-2005, 06:34 AM

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So limp or fold preflop?

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Fold. Raise ATo for sure. A8o is where it starts getting iffy because of the lag behind you.

TheWorstPlayer · #7 04-26-2005, 06:36 AM

Yup. Going forwards this is a fold preflop, and a fold again on the flop. Thanks guys.

martinimagic · #8 04-26-2005, 07:48 AM

I am folding that pre-flop. I may call the river depending on other observed hands. Lately I have been calling down more often and been pleasantly surprised about 65-70% of the time.

TheWorstPlayer · #9 04-26-2005, 08:08 AM

If you're calling when it's two bets back to you on that river, you hate money. I agree it should be a preflop fold, though.