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Old 04-26-2005, 05:20 AM
BreakEvenPlayer BreakEvenPlayer is offline
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Default Finding folds...

Looking into PokerTracker lately and trying to find folds. I go to showdown a ton and that's a beautiful thing, but I could stand to shave a point or two off my WtSD.

Villain is loose, medium agg... In this situation it seems like I am going to see a flush or some other weirdly played 2-pair or set a VERY high percentage of the time.

Who folds this river? Is a river check feasible?

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Preflop: Hero is SB with K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Button calls, Hero completes, BB checks.

Flop: (4 SB) K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
Hero checks, BB checks, MP checks, Button checks.

Total whiff on flop check-raise.

Turn: (2 BB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, BB calls, MP folds, Button folds.

River: (4 BB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">BB raises</font>, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 8 BB
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Old 04-26-2005, 05:27 AM
billyjex billyjex is offline
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Default Re: Finding folds...

I think you will win this pot more than 1 in 7 times to make a call correct.

Checking the river is weak.
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Old 04-26-2005, 05:32 AM
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Default Re: Finding folds...

There are quite a few busted draws (not to mention made draws)... and players at this level bluff rivers a large percentage of the time when checked to. I think a check is worth considering here.
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Old 04-26-2005, 05:33 AM
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Default Re: Finding folds...

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I think you will win this pot more than 1 in 7 times to make a call correct.

Checking the river is weak.

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How about checking the river to induce a bluff? Hero hasn't shown much strength, and it looks like a good scare card for a medium aggro player to bluff at.
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Old 04-26-2005, 05:36 AM
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Default Re: Finding folds...

I guess I didn't really consider that. I was more scared of a Q, 5 or medium pocket that thought it was good on the turn to call down checking the river through.

It's close?
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Old 04-26-2005, 05:46 AM
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Default Re: Finding folds...

It also seems like many hands I am betting for value against are going to bet when I check to them any way. The only hands I see this guy checking on the river are x3 and x2 hands and he probably will bet many of those.
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