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Old 04-25-2005, 06:01 AM
ESCaspian ESCaspian is offline
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Default $100 NL at the Commerce

Hero in BB with Q [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]J [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
3 limpers SB completes
Hero checks
5 players $15
Flop:
Q [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]9 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]4 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
SB checks
Hero bets $20 (about $300 more in stack)
2 folds CO raises allin $90 total
1 fold
Hero??
Easy fold? How often is this a flush/str draw?
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Old 04-25-2005, 06:06 AM
Malachii Malachii is offline
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Default Re: $100 NL at the Commerce

You tell me man, you're the one that should have been observing them for the last hour or so. No reads?
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Old 04-25-2005, 06:53 AM
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Default Re: $100 NL at the Commerce

It is usually a fold but you may likely be up against a flush draw against some players.
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Old 04-25-2005, 09:51 AM
MarkL444 MarkL444 is offline
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Default Re: $100 NL at the Commerce

why is the pot $15?
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Old 04-25-2005, 10:54 AM
swolfe swolfe is offline
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Default Re: $100 NL at the Commerce

comepletely player dependant. i'd play that same way with 99, 44, or J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].

against an unknown, it's fold.
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Old 04-25-2005, 12:21 PM
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Default Re: $100 NL at the Commerce

This is a tough call with no reads. If this is a solid villian then one would expect to see KQ, AQ, 44 or Q9. If the villian is a joker then maybe Q10 or a flush draw.

I think you wouldn't have gotten youself in this spot if you avoided overbetting the pot on the flop. Overbetting gives the villian better overlay to push on a steal. It is easier to get away from the hand if you bet $12-$15.

I would fold and wait for a better spot than risking my whole stack with top pair-lousy kicker.
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Old 04-25-2005, 04:59 PM
ESCaspian ESCaspian is offline
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Default Re: $100 NL at the Commerce

Good point I probably bet a little too much but wanted to take it down right there.

The blind’s are 2-3 so the pot was $15 (actually $11 after rake).

Thanks for advice. I have just switched over to NL from limit and still feeling my way.


Oddly enough the very next time I’m in the BB I find myself with K [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]4 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] with 5 limpers

6 to flop $18 ($14 after rake)
flop A [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]K [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]4 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]

1 check again Hero bets $20 (still about $300 deep) a few folds and someone else goes all-in for $100 total
(fwiw - Hero folded last time)

Hero...
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Old 04-25-2005, 05:02 PM
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Default Re: $100 NL at the Commerce

Both hands are calls IMO.
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