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Old 04-22-2005, 07:53 PM
Siawyn Siawyn is offline
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Default Some laydown hands

Some bad, some good, some inbetween, and some downright ugly:

Hand 1:

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (10 handed) converter

saw flop|<font color="#C00000">saw showdown</font>

Hero ($46.75)
Button ($63.15)
SB :#A500AF(Villian)/ ($60.75)
BB ($43.95)
UTG ($102.95)
UTG+1 ($19.55)
UTG+2 ($100.05)
MP1 ($18)
MP2 ($35.55)
MP3 ($47.35)

Preflop: Hero is CO with 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]. SB :#A500AF(Villian)/ posts a blind of $0.25.
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG+1 calls $0.50, UTG+2 calls $0.50, MP1 calls $0.50, MP2 calls $0.50, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Hero calls $0.50, Button calls $0.50, <font color="#CC3333">SB :#A500AF(Villian)/ (poster) raises to $2.75</font>, BB calls $2.50, UTG+1 folds, UTG+2 calls $2.50, MP1 calls $2.50, MP2 folds, Hero calls $2.50, Button folds.

Flop: ($16.50) 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Villian bets $3</font>, BB folds, UTG+2 calls $3, MP1 folds, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $12</font>, Villian calls $9, UTG+2 folds.

Turn: ($43.50) 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Villian checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $15</font>, Villian calls $15.

River: ($73.50) T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Villian calls $30.75 (All-In), Hero folds.

Final Pot: $104.25

Results in white below: <font color="#FFFFFF">
Villian doesn't show.
Outcome: Villian wins $104.25. </font>

When I replayed this hand, I figured out 3 ways I messed this hand up. How about you?
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Hand 2:

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (9 handed) converter

saw flop|<font color="#C00000">saw showdown</font>

BB ($30.75)
UTG :#A500AF(Villian)/ ($59.56)
UTG+1 ($37.75)
MP1 ($69.2)
MP2 ($48)
MP3 ($22.86)
CO ($50.05)
Hero ($148.91)
SB ($64.25)

Preflop: Hero is Button with Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $0.25.
UTG :#A500AF(Villian)/ calls $0.50, <font color="#666666">5 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $2.5</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, UTG :#A500AF(Villian)/ calls $2.

Flop: ($5.75) 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Villian bets $5</font>, Hero calls $5.

Turn: ($15.75) 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Villian checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $10</font>, Villian calls $52.06 (All-In), Hero folds.

Final Pot: $77.81

Results in white below: <font color="#FFFFFF">
No showdown. Villian wins $77.81. </font>

I'm not sure what to think here. I called on the flop since there were no draws, but after a long time thinking on the turn, I had to give this one up... isasmuch not fearing a set but perhaps KK/AA inducing a "bluff" from me?
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Hand 3:

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (8 handed) converter

saw flop|<font color="#C00000">saw showdown</font>

Hero ($253.66)
Button ($28.75)
<font color="#C00000">SB :#A500AF(Villian)/ ($44.35)</font>
BB ($56)
UTG ($50.6)
UTG+1 ($118.75)
MP1 ($40)
<font color="#C00000">MP2 ($50)</font>

Preflop: Hero is CO with Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]. SB :#A500AF(Villian)/ posts a blind of $0.25.
<font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $2.5</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, SB :#A500AF(Villian)/ (poster) calls $2.25, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>.

Flop: ($5.50) 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
Villian checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $4</font>, Villian calls $4.

Turn: ($13.50) J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
Villian checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $7</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Villian raises to $25</font>, Hero folds.

Final Pot: $45.50

I didn't know what to put villian on here. Clearly I was just trying to get the pot preflop but my hand kept improving on each street.
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Hand 4:

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (9 handed) converter

saw flop|<font color="#C00000">saw showdown</font>

UTG ($65.7)
UTG+1 ($48.65)
MP1 :#A500AF(Villian)/ ($64.65)
MP2 ($23.9)
MP3 ($49.5)
CO ($55.51)
Button ($54.75)
Hero ($69.1)
BB ($79.23)

Preflop: Hero is SB with 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]. Hero posts a blind of $0.25.
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, MP1 :#A500AF(Villian)/ calls $0.50, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, CO calls $0.50, Button calls $0.50, Hero (poster) completes, BB checks.

Flop: ($2.50) K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $2</font>, BB folds, Villian calls $2, CO folds, Button folds.

Turn: ($6.50) 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $5</font>, Villian calls $5.

River: ($16.50) 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $5</font>, Villian calls $57.15 (All-In), Hero folds.

Final Pot: $78.65

In retrospect by betting that little I'm asking him to take it away from me, but seemed to me he was on the flush draw. Bet $15 on the river instead and fold to a push?
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Hand 5:

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (8 handed) converter

saw flop|<font color="#C00000">saw showdown</font>

MP2 ($29.1)
Hero ($100.05)
Button :#A500AF(Villian)/ ($99.35)
SB ($61.8)
BB ($16.65)
UTG ($60.2)
UTG+1 ($46.6)
MP1 ($23.3)

Preflop: Hero is CO with A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $0.25.
<font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $3</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button :#A500AF(Villian)/ raises to $8</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $25</font>, Button :#A500AF(Villian)/ calls $17.

Flop: ($50.75) 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, Villian calls $74.35 (All-In), Hero folds.

Final Pot: $125.10

This one was actually pretty easy since it was vs a 2+2'er, random party donk it's a little more difficult. A better question here might be how much of a bet could villian make here to lure most of you into calling this down?
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Old 04-22-2005, 08:02 PM
PoBoy321 PoBoy321 is offline
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Default Re: Some laydown hands

Hand 1) Bet more on the turn.

Hand 2) Raise the flop

Hand 3) I might check behind on the turn

Hand 4) Looks like a good laydown, although I might have lead the flop. I just have trouble check/folding with aces.
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Old 04-22-2005, 08:10 PM
Siawyn Siawyn is offline
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Default Re: Some laydown hands

with the AA hand, how much do you lead out for?

In this particular hand I had Villian squarely on KK when he called my re-raise. But if we're talking about a random party player who might have made that call with AK or QQ/JJ... difficult thing is I've got a quarter of my stack in already with the aces, which is what I wanted.
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Old 04-23-2005, 12:32 AM
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Default Re: Some laydown hands

Also on hand 1, how much on the turn? Interesting thing if I bet something like $30 then I've pretty much committed myself to the hand which isn't bad of course, but I'm worried about chasing flush draws away since the board paired and I definitely want a flush draw to continue. If the board didn't pair then I definitely bet it harder.
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