missed value bet?

[nopepper]

local card room 1/2 nl plays more like 2/5. shortest stack on the table is $100 and hes short by about 2-1, full game. Im at $220, other key players in this hand are the short stack (button) and one other player who has me covered (SB), no real read on him.

im dealt 45c in the bb and 5 limpers to me so i knock and we flop

Jc10cKh

sb checks, I bet $15, folded around to the button goes all in for $90 sb calls? so I call,

Turn 4h sb checks, I check

River Kc

sb pauses then checks, I check.

did I miss a bet? comment on the flop call also appreciated.

[MikeL]

You clearly have FPS. What else than your flush were you
hoping for? At this rate, you will lose $32 (2.1 to 1 against
gives you 15*2 (30) + 2 to see the flop) to every time you
win that 10 in the pot.

You have to get something out of it when you hit!

Regards,
Mike L.

[Yeknom58]

"button goes all in for $90 sb calls?"

Easy easy fold.

[nopepper]

is it really that easy? please explain? doe snayone else think this is easy?

[nopepper]

[ QUOTE ]
You clearly have FPS. What else than your flush were you
hoping for? At this rate, you will lose $32 (2.1 to 1 against
gives you 15*2 (30) + 2 to see the flop) to every time you
win that 10 in the pot.

You have to get something out of it when you hit!

Regards,
Mike L.

[/ QUOTE ]

I love hitting the flush, i hate seeing it pair the board!

[kurto]

I see some of the biggest losses with people who play really low flushes. Not that this is the case necessarily here, but how much of your stack do you want to invest in a flush when your highest card is a 5?

I thought the traditional strategy was, with low suited connectors, that you really prefer to hit a high straight rathar then a weak flush.

You weren't getting the right pot odds for this play. You'd rathar do this if you flopped a decent flush draw and an OESD.

I think you should have folded to his raise.

If I had to put him on a hand, what seems most likely that he would raise you?
1) flopped straight (not as likely since he checked the turn... unless he was trying to induce a bluff)
2) Flopped a flush draw with an OESD. (this would explain his checking the turn and his hesitation on the river)
3) he flopped a set (and he stupidly checks hoping you will bet into him) OR he flopped a low set and is worried that you had 2 pair and filled up to a better boat.
4) He had TP and an OESD and is worried about either a flush or a fullhouse.
5) he flopped 2 pair and didn't fill up.

Regardless of his hand, even if you get all in, I don't think you made enough to justify your original call. If your opponent is somewhat of a decent player, theres a decent chance you're beat by a better flush or a fullhouse.

Don't get yourself in this position.